Bob Costas went head-to-head with Bill O’Reilly about gun control in America. Costas found himself in the middle of a gun controversy after he spoke out during halftime at an NFL game about Kansas City Chiefs’ Jovan Belcher’s murder-suicide.

The NBC sportscaster sat down for an interview with O’Reilly, who is outspoken about his own views on gun rights.

The Factor host asked Costas how he really feels about the right to bear arms. Costas said he’s not looking to repeal the Second Amendment. “I didn’t call for any specific prohibition on guns, never used words gun control,” he defended.

Costas said he quoted columnist Jason Whitlock’s response to the tragedy because he “credibly” mentioned a gun culture in America that’s about a “mentality about and toward guns that almost always leads to tragedy rather than safety.”

The Founding Fathers gave colonists the right to bear arms in case the government deteriorated into tyranny. In today’s world, there’s a debate over the government’s responsibility when it comes to lethal weapons. O’Reilly said to Costas, “So you’re saying you want a more stringent program by the authorities to make it harder to get guns.”

Costas interjected, “No, you are saying I’m saying that. […] If you were to ask me, I believe that there should be more comprehensive and effective controls on the sale of guns.”

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