Ron Paul Explains: Isolationism vs Non-Interventionism

Posted on December 19, 2011 by Conservative Byte

The recent GOP debates have been a learning process for many of the Neo-Conservatives. First Rudy got a little education and now McCain can get some good information he can use from the good Dr. Paul about the difference between Isolationism and Non-Interventionism.

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  • http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com Shane

    What the hell is this; the Ron Paul for President site? Paul is not a Republican he is a Libertarina. I will support any of the GOP Presidential candidates, except for the Libertarian Paul who is a true RINO; a Republican-in-Name-Only. Paul is an Isolationist whose foreign policy and views on Islam are similar to Obama’s, not to the other Republican Presidential candidates.

    • James

      Crawl back under your rock.

      • Slick Willy

        After you…

      • Steven

        Shane is exactly right. ron paul is my congressman, unfortunately, and has done nothing for this district except obstruct helpful legislation. He would be as devestating for this country as obama. Well maybe not that bad, but close.

        • http://www.libertyandhope.blogspot.com/ xRedfoxx

          Steven is a liberal troll and a republican in name only, if even that. People in Paul’s district love him and keep putting him back in office by a wide margin. He is a good man with great ethics and a devotion to America. Coming from a true Texan!!

    • Ken

      I agree with you Shane. We need more war! We should do for the rest of the world what we did for Iraq. Wreck these countries and let Iran take them over. Who cares how many American military men are killed or maimed, we need more war. Vote against Ron Paul and let the wars continue,

      • Mike

        Ken you are an idiot and most likely liberal trash.

        • fntsmk

          Sorry Mike, you’re the idiot here.

        • Joseph C Moore, USN Ret

          Mike, YOU are the idiot if you cannot recognize such outspoken SARCASM.

          • Michael

            I don’t think we should be bashing ken or mike. I think mike didn’t get the sarcasm but no reason to bash him for it he was sticking up for the cause. If anything you should be bashing shane but i don’t think you should bash shane because he is uneducated if anything you should feel sorry for him like i do. Try to educate those who oppose Dr. paul. Shane you should go to RonPaul2012 and get educated then respond with an educated response.

        • steve

          Mike,

          It’s called sarcasm.

        • http://www.libertyandhope.blogspot.com/ xRedfoxx

          Mike…this is a conservative blog. Take your ‘kill them at all costs’ rhetoric elswhere.

      • http://BRIGHTHOUSE badge007

        THE MILITARY WON THE WAR IN IRAQ AND THE POLITICOS HAVE LOST IT. THEY HAVE NOW GONE EVER FURTHER SETTING UP IRAQ FOR A TAKEOVER BY IRAN. IDIOTS IN CONGRESS & THE WHITE HOUSE . EVER SINCE WW 2 WE HAVE GONE TO WAR WITH ONE HAND TIED BEHIND OUR BACKS!!!!

        • FOR HIM”"!RICH

          WE DID NOT WIN THE WAR IN IRAQ”"? WE KILLED 5,500 INNOCENT AMERICANS And over 100,000 Innocent Iraq Citizens’! Hate Spreads This Way. 9/11

        • Ken

          What did we win?

        • fntsmk

          We won? What’s the prize? I see 4487 dead Americans, 30,000 plus wounded, who knows how many mentally effed up from the war, returning to an economy with no jobs because our Gov’t has printed, borrowed, and spent our economy into bankruptcy to wage these immoral and illegal wars, etc. Funny…, I don’t see anyone anywhere in the Middle East or anywhere else for that matter saying, “We love America” or waving American flags.

          • Jstarusa

            Now thats the truth! We cannot and should not police the world.

      • tod

        Dr.Ron Paul 2012 for the ONLY PROVEN HONEST(for Well Over 30 Years),Intelligent,God Fearing,Patriot running for President,PERIOD !!!

        • fntsmk

          Hear hear!

      • Louis

        Ken, I agree with you. We should also spend mult trillions of dollars to do so and close our eyes to the fact that a bankrupt America is a dream come true for all those good mulsim countries. Hey, if we are bankrupt, we couldn’t even have a hope of defending our borders and all the muslim and mexican would have access to just walk right in. What is wrong with these people. I like an america like that. And besides, who needs the second amendment or the others. You are a good guy ken, lets have coffee together.

      • john

        Ron would win over many if he would be clear about maintaining the world’s strongest military for DEFENSE purposes. It frustrates me that he does not emphasize this. I want him to win but he will not if he does not make this clear.

        • Carol Fryer

          Well he can say it till the cows come home and most people wont hear it. They will only hear the smears. I heard him say it. But I listen and above all I follow his track record. Hes had the same stand for many many years. And at a time like this just before the elections, every word will be turned inside out to mean something else.

          • ellen

            One has to be smart to understand and support Rep. Paul.

          • Jstarusa

            BUT, can he win against Obama? Thats what we all should be concerned about!

        • Steven F

          Ron Paul CAN’T be clear about maintaining the world’s strongest military for defense purposes because he DOESN’T believe in the world’s strongest military for ANY purposes. If he did, he would have said so by now, and I would support him.

          • Goldbug36

            Ron Paul has said many times that he believes in a strong, defensive military, but we should not be EMPIRE building. He is rarely given any pertinent questions in the debates, because the MSM wants to minimize him. One has to go to YouTube or http://www.ronpaul2012.com and watch his many videos outlining his position on the various issues.

        • fntsmk

          Brother John,

          Ron Paul has stated MANY times that he is for a strong National Defense. Look at his videos and debates.

        • Vince

          John, he does make this clear, people just don’t listen.
          He says, “America should take care of herself. Defend the homeland and only go to war when congress declares it.”
          What about this doesn’t say strong defense???

    • Ken Howe

      Did you not notice the difference between non-interference and isolation? Labels are only labels and political parties are merely constructs to make it look as though they are important. If Ron Paul does not win the R nomination, I will vote for a third party and if that throws it back to Obama, so be it. Romney, Gingrich and Obama are three peas in the same pod.

      • Mike

        Voting for a third party and knowingly giving Obama more time to destroy this country just because your man does not win is the night of childish behavior. ANY of the republican folks (heck a can of soda pop) would be a better leader than Obama.

        • fntsmk

          Too bad. It’s the only way to take our country back and we WILL take our country back or else let Oh Bugger destroy it on a fast track. Any candidate other than Ron Paul will be a schill for the Establishment that runs this country. The establishment wants to keep the “Public Debt for Profit Train” going in the same direction and they don’t care which track, Dem or Rep, their train runs on, nor who the engineer is, as long as the train keeps going in the same direction. Ron Paul is clearly the only man who will stop the “debt train,” and reverse it’s direction. Call it political extortion if you will, but Ron Paul supporter will not vote for anyone other than Ron Paul and if that gives the election to Oh Bugger than so be it. If you ABOs want to ensure that OhBugger loses, then you’d better get behind Ron Paul now. Your choice.

          • Shane Mayfield

            Well said, The only person running that will make a difference is Ron Paul, The others are all owned by the establishment. If you really love your country and want her to prosper you need to VOTE Ron Paul 2012.

          • Slick Willy

            More like TREASON on your part. Your blatant stupidity is clearly showing.

          • IdontBrakeForDems

            fntsmk you are absolutely right. I am one of those who will vote for Ron Paul come hell or high water. A sack of beans could do better than obama and he is going to LOSE BIG, landslide style. The media keeps saying ‘better watch out, obama could win’ just to try to keep people tuning in and watching. This is going to be a blow-out of historic proportions. The only way obama could eeek out a win is if the panthers are stuffing the ballot boxes and dead people turn out in huge numbers at the polls. People who scoff at Ron Paul or his super-loyal followers would do well to get past the media short changing him and do some discover on your own. He is real, he is leading and he is going to win.

        • Michael

          Voting for anyone else but Dr. Paul is a vote for Obama. The only difference between Obama and the other candidates are they say they are against the health care bill but Newt was for it and Romney heck it was almost the same bill he passed in Massachusettes so there is not much difference. All the gop except Ron Paul are for big Gov. , The Patriot Act, More Wars, The Federal Reserve, Wall Street, Bankers, Keynesian Economics, Fiat Money,Defense Authorization Act, Ect. and guess what so is Obama. Ron Paul is the only one Against those things. Knowledge is power. Americans needs more Knowledge.

        • Carol Fryer

          People will vote for their own choice and not yours. Get over it.

          • Slick Willy

            AMEN…

        • Loyal American

          Mike you are wrong. Like many, I will stand my ground to protect the USA and all of our Constitutional Republic government, and will not again vote for the sneaks with proven bad reputations. That means I can only vote for Ron Paul. If lilly livers bring down the country by voting for any of the horrid neocon and one world’er candidates that Paul is competing with, then they are guilty of handing the USA over to a communist dictator, Obama & Wrecking Crew. Conclusion of those who believe the same way, is that Americans must learn a harsh lesson through more experience at the hand of O, or realize that they are required to elect worthy officers in government and do so. This is a most serious election that will either destroy our Constitutional Republic or kick the Communists out and regain our Freedoms and save our country.

          • RioSam

            The neocon war pigs are especially vocal about getting rid of Ron Paul and continuing the cycle of never-ending war and destruction. William Kristol over at The Weekly Standard is calling for a brokered convention – he calls it a “deliberative convention” – to defeat the will of the American people.

            “It’s a new political era. Perhaps that era will feature once again a real, deliberative convention – where the delegates, with the ghosts of Lincoln and FDR looking on, choose, on a second or third or fourth ballot, a compelling nominee and a consequential president,” Kristol writes.

            Regardless of what happens in Tampa next year, between now and then the Republican establishment will do everything they can to sabotage the Ron Paul presidential campaign. They are determined to keep the political system exactly the way it is despite the fact most Americans are desperate for real change and many of them have decided that Ron Paul is the only candidate with a plan to stop the nation’s downward death spiral and restore its constitutional heritage.

          • Vince

            Make no mistake about it. The “establishment” cannot and will not let Ron Paul win the nomination outright.
            He must win by landslide where they cannot refute it or cloud the vote in any way.
            They will pull every punch and every low-handed scheme to divert the vote. For the sake of our country, it is time to stand against the establishment and take our country back!

        • Jstarusa

          I do believe the other candidates would not bring in all the socialist advisers like Obama did. Least I would hope not!

      • Steve H

        You and idiots like you WILL keep Obama in office which will allow the finial nail to be driven into America’s coffin.

        When will you, without a clue people, wake up?

        • fntsmk

          We’ve already woken up to Gov’t abuse and overreach and the destruction of our personal liberties. The guy who woke us up was Ron Paul and he’s been warning us of these abuses for over 35 years. It took the advent of the Internet and search engines like Google for his message to reach the masses. With age and the Internet comes wisdom. I see that you have access to the Internet. Perhaps one day you will also have wisdom.

          • don

            show me where WE are woke up. do you see anyone knocking doors down trying to do anything. all talk an then more talk. we have not woke up YET. we better an SOON.

          • Slick Willy

            more like it was Glenn Beck, not Ron Paul.

          • Loyal American

            Yeah, well, you can bet the commies are shook up by what happened in Egypt etc. through the use of today’s PUBLIC PERSONAL technology. That means you can bet that the commie in office is supporting whatever his handlers order him to do quickly to get that equipment out of the hands of Americans or take control of the systems… Let’s see, take the guns, or take the cellphones…. guns or cellphones, cellphones, guns, oh geeeeeee we gotta do both!!! And Fast and Furiously. Don’t you see that O is working as directed, on crippling BOTH strengths in the USA? Why would this Jackass be doing this when any President in our govt today should be fixing the finances, getting jobs going… CAN’T YOU SEE WHAT IS GOING ON with this mad monkey grinning creep?

        • Alexander NewHampshireite

          Both parties have been so busy building the coffin, what difference does it make which one finishes the last nail?

          • Laura Hall

            Great quote! I’m gonna use that. It expresses the situation very succinctly. I will vote Ron Paul, and NO ONE else!

          • Loyal American

            Just so the product is in their size.

        • RioSam

          The neocon war pigs are especially vocal about getting rid of Ron Paul and continuing the cycle of never-ending war and destruction. William Kristol over at The Weekly Standard is calling for a brokered convention – he calls it a “deliberative convention” – to defeat the will of the American people.

          “It’s a new political era. Perhaps that era will feature once again a real, deliberative convention – where the delegates, with the ghosts of Lincoln and FDR looking on, choose, on a second or third or fourth ballot, a compelling nominee and a consequential president,” Kristol writes.

          Regardless of what happens in Tampa next year, between now and then the Republican establishment will do everything they can to sabotage the Ron Paul presidential campaign. They are determined to keep the political system exactly the way it is despite the fact most Americans are desperate for real change and many of them have decided that Ron Paul is the only candidate with a plan to stop the nation’s downward death spiral and restore its constitutional heritage.
          RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2012

      • Beepster

        “Romney, Gingrich and Obama are three peas in the same pod.”

        Well, that IS one thing you got right. I wonder if Soros has all three on his payroll? the demidogs got rid of Cain fast enough. Couldn’t have a real black running against a 1/2 black. But then, I’m not sure there will actually be an election anyway.

      • IGotAComment

        Face it, Ken is a liberal at heart. If his liberal, independent candidate doesn’t secure the nomination, he’ll do anything to insure that a non-GOP/Conservative candidate doesn’t win. That’s a sure fire liberal to me.

    • Gary Schaumberg

      A Libertarian holds liberty dear to his/her heart and understands the Constitution is the document that spells out and guarantees those liberties and freedoms. A conservative (true Republican) is one that chooses to ‘conserve’ the (true) meaning and intent of the Constitution. Can not a Libertarian also be a Republican? A RINO is as noted, a Republican in name only but by voting as a liberal (Democrat/Progressive) or IOW, as someone that ignores his or her ‘oath of office’ which in essence acknowledges and pledges support and preservation of the Constitution. (Homework – Check out ‘oath of office’ online.) Ron Paul a RINO? The individual has not used the acronym ‘RINO’ correctly. Thus the above individual has contradicted himself with the RINO statement after acknowleging Ron Paul as a Libertarian.

    • charles

      I’m not voting for a party, that’s for the leaders of that organization to do. Since I’m simply a voter exercising my civil right to vote, I’m voting on principle, and for that person who shares most of my principles. No candidate can completely share the diferent principles of each and every one of us. You might like the color fellow, I might like green, and Paul might like blue, but as long as we all like white, then hes our man. Get what I mean.

      • Loyal American

        We’ve learned a valuable lesson.

      • RioSam

        INDEED I DO!! Well said.

    • John

      Ron Paul reminds me of the old cartoons that depict an ostrich with its head buried in the sand. His statements on Jay Leno’s show demonstrate how ignorant he is about the dangers of Islam. Get hold of a Koran and read the damned thing! Muslims are the friends of no one but other Muslims.

      • fntsmk

        You’re very uninformed. I was too four years ago. The Preamble to the Declaration of Independence says “…all men are created equal…” That means Muslims too. The problem that you have, that I ONCE had, was that you were taught that Americans are morally superior to everyone else on the planet. Children are taught they belief systems from birth by their parent and the societies in which they are reared. What they are taught, right or wrong, is not their fault, just like it’s not your fault that you were taught that America is the best country on Earth and can do no wrong. Goolge US-Iran relations. Google Afghan-Soviet War. Go ahead, don’t take my word for it, do your own research, but don’t just blindly write about Muslims threats to our existence.

        • IGotAComment

          “The problem that you have, that I ONCE had, was that you were taught that Americans are morally superior to everyone …”
          —————–
          I think you’re the one with a ‘superiority’ problem. You’re telling me what I was taught. You arrogant jerk. Your problem is the people (probably your parents) who taught ‘you’, thought they were morally superior to everyone else on the planet. Once you thought someone had straightened your arse out, you thought it gave you the right to be the ‘all knowledgeable one.’ You are turned into an Obama and now think you have some kind of knowledge the rest of us do not have.

          When the people of NYC or anyother city start strapping explosives on 12 year old kids and then blowing them up on buses or at the market place, then I’ll start thinking we are not the one’s with the correct way of thinking. Try going to Iran and speaking your mind. See where that lands your arse.

          • Loyal American

            Is it true that commenters hit the net fast to ding anyone who puts USA ahead of concerns for Israel? Is it true that Americans ship billions to Israel so they will be our friends and they bring it back in shopping bags and leave in certain politicians’ offices?

          • fntsmk

            You are a moron.

    • fntsmk

      Yeah man! See kookyronpaul dot com to see how kooky the old guy is.

    • DON BRITTON

      Great point, you are going to love it when the one world government crowd starts telling the US what to do, think UN and NATO redistributing our wealth.
      The philosophy of doing unto others as we would have them do unto us will never work because, too many foreign leader would loose their jobs without the billions of dollars they receive for the US all in the guise of preserving peace.

    • Hardtack

      I agree.
      Ron Paul is definitely a RINO. He doesn’t want to spend enough, expand government enough, or control everyone’s life, at home and abroad, enough to be a true “conservative.” Ron Paul isn’t “liberal” enough to be a “conservative.” Moreover, Ron Paul likes to stick to the Constitution and wants to limit government. In other words, according to the current GOP playbook, he’s an extremist!

      • Carol Fryer

        Im sorry but rinos are just the opposite. And constitutionists are not liberals. Liberals love big government and so do rinos. And they say one thing and do another.

      • Loyal American

        It’s over. We are focused on USA. Go protect your country.

    • http://web Shinning55

      American dont know what they want,Ron Paul the same as Obama he would all military Budget. He dont believed in America.

    • Laura Hall

      Do you have ANY idea what Ron Paul stands for? If you support the neocons, and , like Lindsey Graham, you believe that is the Republican Party, then YOU are the RINO. The Republican Party is very closely allied to Libertarianism, and the Founders were ALL libertarian in their ideals. Liberty is what this country was founded on…didn’t you get the memo?

    • FOR HIM”"!RICH

      SHANE………….GO BACK TO SCHOOL” YOUR IGNORANT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS. PAUL IS THE RIGHT MAN AT THE RIGHT TIME”
      “! (EX VIET-NAM ERA AIR FORCE VET)

    • michael russo

      your totally misinformed and media hypnotized. he is not an isolationist.

    • Concerned American Citizen

      I totally agree.

    • cmbhi

      Shane, I hope you would complain just as loudly if they did a piece on Gingrich who is a PROGRESSIVE!!!
      Or are you looking forward to your time in a FEMA camp?
      I applaud Conservative Byte for helping those who are too lazy to vet the candidates themselves for putting up this video to help Americans open their eyes to the neocon progressives’ desire for eternal war.

      • RioSam

        The neocon war pigs are especially vocal about getting rid of Ron Paul and continuing the cycle of never-ending war and destruction. William Kristol over at The Weekly Standard is calling for a brokered convention – he calls it a “deliberative convention” – to defeat the will of the American people.

        “It’s a new political era. Perhaps that era will feature once again a real, deliberative convention – where the delegates, with the ghosts of Lincoln and FDR looking on, choose, on a second or third or fourth ballot, a compelling nominee and a consequential president,” Kristol writes.

        Regardless of what happens in Tampa next year, between now and then the Republican establishment will do everything they can to sabotage the Ron Paul presidential campaign. They are determined to keep the political system exactly the way it is despite the fact most Americans are desperate for real change and many of them have decided that Ron Paul is the only candidate with a plan to stop the nation’s downward death spiral and restore its constitutional heritage.
        GO RON PAUL

    • jamo

      How can you compare a real American to Obama – the fraud? Further, if you don’t know the difference between isolationism and non intervention, you’d be best to keep your editorials to yourself!!!

    • Andrea B

      @Shane

      It’s obvious that you didn’t watch the video.

      Ron Paul 2012

    • Andrea B

      @Shane

      It’s obvious that you didn’t watch the video.

      FYI: Ron Paul isn’t running for president of the republican party. He’s running for President of the United States, where he has more support.

      Ron Paul 2012

    • http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1177000219 Jared Myers

      “Paul is an Isolationist whose foreign policy and views on Islam are similar to Obama’s, not to the other Republican Presidential candidates.”

      Umm, Barack Obama’s foreign policy views are the exact same (in practice) as GWB’s, so that example doesn’t fly.

  • PROPHECYEXAMINED1

    The sore loosers always scream isolationism when Ron Paul talks about non-interventionism, republicans like “shawn” are mad because even with those policies which Paul has been advocating for over thirty years he is beating back the real rino republicans who want more war, more expenditures for war and true intervention in denial of our freedoms and theirs in other countries!

  • hambone

    Well I guess you would rather live in a country that tells you what to do and how to do it.
    Ron Paul isn’t a RINO.

  • RJC

    OK. Ron Paul is NOT a RINO, but he is an isolationist.
    His policies scare the crap out of me with what we have to deal with in the world today.
    They didn’t work for Arthur Neville Chamberlain, and they won’t work for ‘President Ron Paul’. Swap Ron for Neville and you would have : “we will not get involved in Polish/German problems, let them work it out for themselves”
    I’m sure Ron would be all for Germany building up the armed forces because hey, “that’s how you get respect” in the world stage.
    President Ron Paul will cause WW III with his polices. Mark my words.

    • charles

      What a stupid post!! You have been brainwashed by the Media, USE your OWN HEAD and RESPECT OUR CONSITUTION or just get out of here!! It should be painfully clear to you that the true terrorists are NOT hiding in caves in Afghanistan shooting at NATO troops with rusted second-hand assault rifles, but instead wear $5,000 suits and stroll happily through the halls of power in the United States.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6kf6CjcJBeM

      This Video should clear up your muddy head!!

    • fntsmk

      Ron Paul is a non-interventionist. The American public prior to Dec. 7, 1941 was VERY isolationst. Check your history and your dictionary.

    • Captainshays

      OK Let’s try to explain it this way. Kim Jung Il died last night but his former country is a great example of what an “isolationist” country is. They don’t allow people to come and go. They don’t have free trade with other countries. They don’t have a free exchange of ideas. THAT friend is isolationist.
      Now for an example of a country that is NOT isolationist yet nonetheless “non interventionist” is Switzerland. They do have free trade. They do allow people to come and go freely. They do have a free exchange of ideas. In fact they helped to get our hikers free from Iran a couple of months ago.
      Ron Paul doesn’t want us to be isolationist. He wants us like our founding fathers did, to be neutral, or “non interventionist”.
      Don’t you think it’s absolutely ridiculous when you think about it that our only two alternatives presented by ignorant people is to either police the world, stick our noses in the business of other countries, send our sons to die in wars that have no legitimate value relative to our national security or protection of our freedoms or if you oppose that and just want to protect this country you’re an “isolationist”?

      I have always given it as my decided opinion that no nation had a right to inter-meddle in the internal concerns of another; and that, if this country could, consistent with its engagements, maintain a strict neutrality and thereby preserve peace. George Washington – Letter to James Monroe, August 25, 1796

      Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all. …The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. George Washington – Farewell Address, September 17, 1797

      Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none should be our motto. Thomas Jefferson – First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

      If there be one principle more deeply rooted than any other in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) Letter to William Short, 1791

      • Carol Fryer

        It was a freeing thing for me to realize that I didnt have to control other peoples lives. Most people never get that revelation. It takes 10 tons of worry off your shoulders. Maybe thats why I like Ron Paul so much. And why bullies hate him so much.

      • Concerned American Citizen

        Oh man, there is the “slave “word again! Some folks can not carry a conversation without bringing that tired word up. Even using quotes.
        Ron Paul is a liberal Libertarian who is trying to get elected by saying that he is conservative and is using the Republican platform to do it.
        His tin foil hat antics have shown him to be way to zany for the majority of voters to stomach.
        His followers and fans are the most determined folks and are greatly loyal to their man. That is a plus in his favor. They love him! With a passion and with hard work for him.
        Paul appeals to his people with his opinionated words and antics and his focus on freedom, freedom, freedom. They buy it hook line and sinker. It is nearly anti Government while throwing out the line that the people don’t need Government. It is just hostile enough. Like the right seasoning in a good stew. He has won the hearts and minds of the people who consider themselves above the rest of America. The smart crowd.
        The folks who are tire of politicians but who believe here is the man with the plan to cure America’s ills and set right the wrongs of the Republicans. ( Funny though) I’ve not heard them say much against the Democrats or even about this current administration. Just about the party that Ron Paul claims to be about.

        • Concerned American Citizen

          Correction: that’s tired of politicians. A typo.

        • fntsmk

          Oh man, there’s the ‘tin foil hat’ words again. Okay, I’ll admit I’ve bought Ron Paul’s message hook, line, and sinker and you’ve bought the Establishment’s message hook, line, and sinker. I’ll take Ron Paul’s message over yours every day of the week. When Ron Paul wins the Presidency, you’ll be glad he did and, ashamed of yourself for not supporting him.

      • cmbhi

        Captain Shays that is one of the BEST posts I’ve ever read. If the neocon/progressive Americans still don’t understand the difference between the two after reading that, then they might as well move to a communist country because we Americans will not stand for the continued destruction of our country.
        I stand for PEace and Liberty.
        President Ron Paul 2012

        • fntsmk

          Captain Shay is the man. Ron Paul too!

    • Loyal American

      wrong. Paul will give us a mean lean fighting machine military that will know when he must send them to a battlefield they will not be writing home for supplies, not be hidden when delivered at night in caskets from battlefields so Americans don’t know how many are returning, PARENTS, FAMILIES, TROOPS will have a renewed sense of truth and purpose… and respect for our fighters. He won’t use our fighters for political or personal reasons. They know they are sent to WIN, not just to tramp around.

      • Concerned American Citizen

        And Santa and the tooth fairy will be right there with him while the super hero saves the world and fix’s all those wrongs . May be Elvis can come to and watch!

        • fntsmk

          Dude, what are you smoking? Establishment weed?

    • jamo

      Ron Paul is the one candidate who knows the Constitution – that document they all swear to uphold. I suggest you don’t make comments about isolationism when you don’t know what is is. There is not another candidate; other than possibly Bachmann, with a true record of consistently voting in line with the Constitution – certainly NOT the mark of a RINO! I personally could care less what party he represents as long as he upholds his oath of office. Show me ONE with a better record!

    • William

      Did you even watch the video? Did you notice it was recorded in 2007. If you watched the video, did you notice that his position in 2007 was the same as his position today?
      PLease watch cip again and listen more closely.

  • Frank

    I noticed this was from the Ron Paul 2008 campaign. So he was trying to explain his NON-INTERVENTIONIST foreign policy (as opposed to an ISOLATIONIST foreign policy) for years… and, of course, his policy hasn’t changed over the years. Contrast his changeless policies with the flip-flopping other candidates. I strongly urge everyone interested in the future of America to spend a bit of time doing a Google search on Ron Paul (& the other candidates) to learn for yourself the truth about their positions. Do not trust the MSM (or Fox). They all present a biased view of things. If you don’t put forth the effort, you will be a dumbed-down, brain-washed voter & victim.

    • Concerned American Citizen

      Or you could try listening to the candidates on the debates and when the get to your home towns ask them to answer your questions without their having the press to help them. Or as this writer said, do some digging and research for yourselves how they voted in past elections and on policy.

  • CaptTurbo

    Like Jay Leno said about Ron Paul: “you may not agree with everything he says but you know where he stands”.

    He has not wavered in his position on anything for as long as I have known of him. He is easy to find. Just look behind the Constitution. You will find him there supporting it.

  • Mike

    Ron Paul = Nevel Chamberlin
    Ron Paul is naive at best. He thinks Muslim countries like Iran only dislike us because we support Israel. He thinks you can negotiate with evil. He thinks diplomacy and appeasement will rid the world of evil. All foolish ideas. England and the world found out how foolish that is in the 1930s and 40s. Obama will destroy this country because he hates it. Ron Paul will destroy it because he is foolish.

    • Floorguy

      Ya, everyone likes the guy that says, “do what I say, or I’ll kick your ass”

      • jamo

        You’re right and guess what? When Reagan kicked ass, Ghadafi decided his best approach was to mind his own business while Reagan was in office. Furthermore, I don’t recall the Russians making their threats good when they knew we had the power to blast their butts off the planet. I suppose you want Obama or one of his weak types to represent us internationally. Ron Paul is NOT foolish, he KNOWS the Constitution and follows it.

    • Ralph

      Agreed!

    • martin

      Mike you are so right. People who don’t remember history will repeat history. Sometimes I wonder how many people even know who Neville Chamberlain was and what happened. That part of history is probably not taught to our children any more.

    • charles

      Mike, its time you wake up to REALITY!! And stop being a WARMONGER!!

      RON PAUL “never” said he was gonna negotiate with terrorists, quit spewing garbage you heard from someone else, like the “Lame Stream Media”. He said we dont need 900 bases world wide and we can’t afford them! I agree….bring the troops home!

    • fntsmk

      See kookyronpaul dot com Enter site and see “Can We Agree?”

    • Captainshays

      Didn’t we negotiate with the “evil empire” who had 30,000 nukes pointed at us for over 50 years and who’s leader once said “we will bury you”?
      So where did we go wrong?

    • Alexander NewHampshireite

      It takes longer than one or two elections of any president to “destroy” a nations ideals. But we have for many elections we have seen our ship of state sailing into the sunset with all rum (money) filled hands on deck and the drunken captain smiling. As we have been getting closer to that sunset, and seen that is will destroy the homeland we set sail from, we have realizied the need to replace the rum filled crew and captain with sober sailors and a honest realistic captain to correct the ships course and head back to the sunrise of “constitutional freedom” which is unique to the land we live in and relearn that the “sphere of influence” empires have been relegated to the history books when their existence was based on the “power of ones military” instead of the “power of ones ideas”.

  • alan g

    Anyone who would blame the U.S. for 9/11, doesn’t deserve my vote. And should be enough for anyone to question their support for Paul. I wouldn’t vote for him any more than I would vote for rosie o’donnell.

    • Gary Schaumberg

      Alan, how ’bout an analogy?
      A person shoves a stick into a hornet’s nest. Annoyed/angry insects exit the nest and attack (sting) the person with the stick. The person with a body full of swelling stings then blames the bees for the pain and swelling. Swap the presiding administration for the person wielding the stick and the stick swapped for the present policy of being the police force of the world. We (this nation) believe we are doing the rest of the planet a favor by jamming money in their pockets and then dictating THEIR policy and occupying THEIR country. In the process we also alienate and irritate the funded countries enemies. Put yourself in the ‘shoes’ of those in other nations. Are we (as a nation) viewed by other countries as a benefactor or with contempt as a big, arrogant bully? We as a people/nation didn’t deserve 9-11 but did those WE put in office provoke the attack? FFT!

    • charles

      Alan,

      Too bad you are still clueless about 9/11. And psssst – no wonder Ron Paul has the MOST SUPPORT from the Military than any other candidate combined!!

    • Texas Patriot

      The US, and Britain, have a long history of false flags ( terror attacks staged to implicate another group , i.e. ” al-Qaeda “, which is funded by the CIA ) and there is ample evidence available that 9-11 was staged. Unfortunately , there are still too many Americans who have been media manipulated into believing everything our Government tells them.

      If you want another 4 years of “Obama”, but would feel more comfortable with a Republican President , put your full ( fool ? ) support behind Romney or Gingrich. Both are fully backed by the exact same group of wealthy globalists that made Obama what he is today, and EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT that we’ve had in my 50 years of life. Would you like to know why the media is so anti – Ron Paul ? Because these globalists , who control the media, are scared to death of him. He is against everything they stand for. If, by some miracle, he were to get the nomination I pray that he surrounds himself with the best security force money can buy because they will do everything they can to “eliminate” him.

    • fntsmk

      Dr. Paul did not “blame” the U.S. for 9/11, he simply said that it was a predictable “blowback” due to our foreign policy. You obviously have access to the Internet. Google U.S. – Iran relations and read the Wikipedia article that shows that we supported Osama bin Laden and the Mujahideen in the Afghan-Soviet War. After the Soviets were kicked out, bin Laden went back to work in Saudi Arabia. When the Saudis invited the Americans on their military bases after Saddam invaded Kuwait, bin Laden raised (literally) “holy” hell with the Saudi Gov’t. The Gov’t expelled bin Laden from Saudi Arabia over this. This is where bin Laden got really radical and warned America to leave Mecca and Medina or risk “jihad.” But don’t take my word for it. Look it up!

      • cmbhi

        Thank you.

    • Captainshays

      Alan, those who blamed a flawed foreign policy and who Ron Paul gets his information from are those intelligence officers who have been assaigned to counter-terrorism efforts and of course the 911 Commission Report. Did you ever take the time to read that? It was only $10 when it came out.
      You can also read bin Laden’s declaration of jihad against us where he CLEARLY says that it was the continued bombings, and the sanctions that killed over 500,000 Iraqi’s. Doubt that? JUst go to youtube and type in “Albright says it was worth it” where Clinton’s secretary of state was asked on 60 Minutes by Leslie Stahl about the sanctions that killed half a million Iraqi’s and she thought for a minute then said “yes”. So imagine some country imposing sanctions on us that killed half a million Americans. How would you feel? Wouldn’t you want to kill them especially if your daughter or son or mother or wife was one of those killed? And also remember that Iraq had NEVER attacked us or threatened us and Congress NEVER upheld the Constitution and declared war.
      To be clear though, this isn’t blaming the United States. It’s blaming those who have hijacked our government that engage in a foreign policy that is NOT allowed in our Constitution, the founding fathers advised AGAINST and the American people do not agree with. I mean, do you now agree with Rumsfeld that this country should have so;d chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein which he used to gas the Kurds and Iranians?Did you ever see the contorted faces of the dead mothers holding their dead babies as they died from those weapons? Have you ever seen footage of the piles of dead bodies? I can say this. That when most good Americans see it, they want NOTHING to do with things like that so I would assume that you don’t either.

      I have always given it as my decided opinion that no nation had a right to inter-meddle in the internal concerns of another; and that, if this country could, consistent with its engagements, maintain a strict neutrality and thereby preserve peace. George Washington – Letter to James Monroe, August 25, 1796

      Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all. …The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. George Washington – Farewell Address, September 17, 1797

      Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none should be our motto. Thomas Jefferson – First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

      If there be one principle more deeply rooted than any other in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) Letter to William Short, 1791

      This foreign policy is NOT a foreign policy of REAL conservatives or the founders or the American people. So how could it be blamed on the United states?

      • cmbhi

        Thank you, too!

  • Steve

    This is a critical issue that has not gotten the type of attention needed for Americans to understand the media spin (both left and right wing) on this issue. Here is another excellent video from the Ron Paul site that articulates his position on foreign policy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo&feature=player_embedded

    The moniker “conservative” has been claimed by many people who proclaim themselves experts, but it is amazing to me how in sync the media becomes when the topic of American interventionism (they don’t call it that) comes up. They declare that anyone not willing to fight wars for freedom is crazy, whacko, irresponsible, even dangerous. They see the world falling apart unless we are willing to fight new wars, or support NATO in fighting their wars, at the drop of a hat worldwide. If China were to start flying drones over our country would we consider that to be an act of war against us? But that is what we have started to do throughout the Middle East, but to what end? To be humiliated by the capture of a fallen drone?

    There is a sea change that I think is taking place among Americans regarding the use of military offensives as the primary instrument of American security. Does anyone have a rational explanation of why we need to continue fighting in Afghanistan after 10 years of conflict in that country? Why is it that we fight these wars in the name of freedom while our freedoms, liberties, and privacy is systematically being stripped away at home?

    This is not a return to some pre-WWII conservative stance; rather, it is a growing awareness at a grass-roots level that the challenge of the 21st century requires a robust economy and a renewed emphasis upon Constitutional principles that served as a foundation for national exceptionalism for over two centuries.

    • cmbhi

      And part of that seachange is because the federal government is now turning its sight not only on supposed foreign enemies, but American citizens! The unPatriot Act, Military Commisions Act – which authorizes the building of FEAM camps- and the Natl defense Authorization Act – which authorizes the detention of American citizens without due process or a jury trial – have all been legislated to eradicate our God-given rights. The sheeple succumb to the TSA thugs, many willingly allowing themselves to be fondled and x-rayed. They are handing over what our Constitution says is an UNALIANABLE right for a false sense of security. But true Patriots have raised the alarm and we will not be silenced. Live Free or Die may scare the government thugs, but gives us Patriots renewed strength.
      And we know there is only one candidate who will restore our founding principles and liberties while the neocons go down kicking and screaming.
      Ron Paul 2012

      • fntsmk

        Thank you. And thanks to Steve and Capt. Shay. Great posts all! Ron Paul in 2012! Rand Paul in 2016 and 2020!

  • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason Burns

    So you disagree with Ron Paul’s views on foreign policy?

    http://r3voluti0n.com/2011/foreign-policy/

  • Pepper

    “Ron Paul is right except his nutty foreign policy will kill us all!”

    “His foreign policy is worse than Obama’s!”

    “Iran! Nukes! Iran!!!!1111!!”

    You people need to calm down, take your meds, and watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo
    Then come back here and tell me Ron Paul isn’t right on this too.

    • tod

      Have We Ever Stopped Anybody From Getting Nukes ??? NO !!! AND WE WILL NEVER STOP IRAN !!! So get use to it and bring Our troops HOME !!!

  • skip

    correct me if i’m wrong, it seems to me that ron paul is a reactionist, which, i think, has been the problem all along… just like in our homes, neighborhoods, cities, etc., there needs to be someone responsible for not only keeping the peace, but ensuring it ON A PROACTIVE BASIS… what’s that old saying, ‘a stitch in time saves nine’ ??? that applies not only to home/car maintenance, etc., but to human interactions, too… those of you who have kids know what i’m talking about… if you do nothing up front to ensure peace in your home, etc., chaos results… if my take is right re paul, his ideas/ideals are the same as those which existed pre 1st and 2nd world wars, i.e., we’d stay out of the affairs of other countries until they became impossible to ignore… as i understand it, if it hadn’t been for the attack on pearl harbor, we would not have entered WWII, and where would we be now if we would have allowed hitler/the japanese to continue their ‘take over the world’ activities… i don’t even want to think about it… it’s too bad that there has to be a world policeman, but consider the alternative… i think that if some country, like the u.s., was on the ball, like we pretty much now are (not so much with obama in office), WWII could have been avoided all together… it’s the same with all crime… if the police are reactive, only, crime would be totally rampant… it’s still not under control and probably will never be, but proactive operations are necessary for our personal security just as they are for the security of not only our country, but the entire world… there has to be a deterrent to the power grabs that would be rampant if we were a reactive country, only… without ‘a stitch in time’, we and the rest of the ‘rational’ world are at risk of disaster from countries like russia, china, no. korea, etc… there are a lot of people out there, like soros, who want a ‘one world govt’, and would JUMP at the chance to take control thru ANY means available… soros is trying to do it thru people like obama and so far is engaged in attempted ‘psychological’ styled warfare thru playing games fostered by the socialists, marxists, communists, etc., of the world… but, i think i can pretty much guarantee you that if we become militarily reaction oriented, only, that we are totally headed into an unbelievably destructive world environment… you think that kosovo, iraq, afghanistan were bad??? future history would show that they were minor skirmishes in comparison, that is to say that there would be historians around to capture and record such information… bottom line, no deterrence/proactive operations, no way to keep our homes, neighborhoods, cities, etc., and the world’s ding bats at bay, and BOOM, lots of luck…

    • Pepper

      “correct me if I’m wrong” – yes you are.

      I see nothing reactionist about having our troops and equipment protecting our borders, using our intelligence services to keep up with potential threats, and completely destroying anyone who dares try to touch us. And getting the h311 out afterward instead of staying there and rebuilding all the stuff we broke.

      • skip

        and has paul said “using our intelligence services to keep up with potential threats”??? first i’ve heard of this… this necessitates operations beyond our borders… do you have a reference???

    • fntsmk

      So do you go to all of the bad neighborhoods in your area and kill all of the bad people before they can come to your neighborhood to kill you? All in the name of “neighborhood defense?”

      • skip

        no, but i’m not going to sit on my hands if i get reliable information that “bad people” are coming to my neighborhood to kill me, would you??? sitting on your hands and not keeping your ears/eyes open and failing to take action when indicated will mean your demise…

        • Steve

          Skip, you are operating under the premise that our government, in striking out against all these nations, spending trillions in the process, is doing so out of the best interests of the security of this country. I cannot agree with the premise when I look at the security of our southern border, which has been like a sieve for the past decade and more. It is literally a revolving door of drugs and people coming across at their will. It is not the Mexicans illegals and criminal gangs I’m most concerned about, but at the top of the list is people (mostly Muslim) who are being sponsored into this country with intent to commit havoc/terror.

          We are allegedly fighting many of these battles to keep these individuals from coming to U.S. soil, yet we leave the back door wide open as we travel around the community of nations to look for the bad guys. Iran’s biggest embassy is in Venezuela, and there is regularly scheduled travel directly to the Middle East from there with no vetting of incoming travelers. Isn’t that close to an insane security policy? I do not chalk this up to fecklessness. Believing this (policy of ignoring our border security) is deliberate, and by the same government that is sponsoring pre-emptive strikes around the world (the entire world has now been declared as the battlefield) I have to conclude that the decisionmaking apparatus of our government, be it Republican or Democrat, has an agenda quite different than the propaganda it is feeding the hoi poloi. As part of that agenda we are playing into a global governance policy that will eventually cede power to a UN “Peacekeeping Force” that violates the soveignty of nations worldwide, all in the interest of the global collective.

          • skip

            re our borders, i can’t disagree… it seems to me that obama is a minion of george soros and his open border, one world govt, etc., schemes, and is a disciple (hillary, too) of radical chicago community organizer and communist fellow traveler saul alinsky with his blaming, belittling, half or no truth, etc., to get his way, and between the 2 of them, obama has zero political ideas/ideals of his own and can’t see or doesn’t want to see the forest for the trees… i firmly believe that obama has an agenda, and it’s not his own, but he’s bought into it, and based on his background and belief system, has no 2nd thoughts or qualms about where he’s attempting to take this country…

          • Jstarusa

            In other words, we are screwed no matter which way we go. Even if Paul is elected, are the rest of the congress going to go along with his agenda? We would have to vote more like people in to support Paul. You have to ask yourself is all that possible? Or would we have another “magic pen”agenda as per Obama?

    • Captainshays

      Skip, one of the myths about WWII was that Hitler would be able to take us over. But at the height of the Third Reicht he only had 3 million troops. A lot were trying to maintain his conquests in Europe. A lot were on the Eastern Front with their hands full os Russians. A lot were trying to take over Great Briton and having a real hard time at it.
      Meanwhile, we had around 80 million armed citizens, a navy, air force, army and marines. So he would have to cross the atlanic Ocean, get past our military and then have to face 80 million americans who were defending their families. Bro, he wouldn’t get past New Jersey let alone take us over or change our way of life.
      FDR’s policy of “Lend Lease” was because after WWI, the REAL conservatives passed additional laws to ensure our LONG STANDING policy of neutrality. Among that legislation were laws that precluded the USA from selling arms to countries that were at war hence “lend lease” which progressives used to circumvent those laws and abandon non interventionism. We also had a way different mentality back then and 72% of the American people wanted NOTHING to do with another European war. It was more like 93% before WWI.
      This notion that we need to police the world among americans today is due to YEARS of propaganda and indoctrination in government schools. Think about it. Weren’t we taught that FDR was one of our best presidents? His economic policies were a mirror image of Adolf Hitler’s prior to the war which prolonged the Great Depression by TEN YEARS. His domestic policies have us in around $68 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities. Granted many of the policies were brought to us by Johnson but they did start us on a collectivist path and those policies subvert the free market til this day.
      Unless you are a soothsayer you really don’t know what the future holds. NO ONE can accurately predict what will happen or even might happen.But if we’re going to look to the past for guidence then know this. ALL empires in history collapsed but not after first devaluing their currency which cause political unrest and then they turned their military in on their own people.

      • skip

        yeah, there’re a lot of ‘ifs and buts’ in connection with all of this stuff… all we can do is try to maintain an even keel in the world so that the usurpers are kept at bay… re WWII, germany, italy and japan were basically acting in concert, so to speak, right, with the same basic goals in mind, and were technically competent, especially with germany’s expertise re ‘long range’ rocketry and explosives to include nuclear fission… to wit: “In December 1938, the German chemists Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann sent a manuscript to the science journal Naturwissenschaften (“Natural Science”) reporting they had detected the element barium after bombarding uranium with neutrons;[2] simultaneously, they communicated these results to Lise Meitner, who had in July of that year fled to the Netherlands and then went to Sweden.[3] Meitner, and her nephew Otto Robert Frisch, correctly interpreted these results as being nuclear fission.[4] Frisch confirmed this experimentally on 13 January 1939.” so, it would seem they were on the right track and, if they and the japanese/italy had been successful in their efforts to take over the ‘developed’ world, let’s say, not to include the north american continent, and we just sat on our hands, i think i can pretty much say they would have had the capability of a nuclear strike on that continent maybe as soon as the mid to late 40′s??? with this capability, they wouldn’t have had to cross either pond!!! i think it was only because of our eventual entry into the war, apparently only because we got whacked by japan, in concert to some extent with russia, that all of this fell off track… and, correct me if i’m wrong, but i think that we didn’t have much of a war machine before we got into WWII… if we hadn’t entered, i think no way the world would be even close to the same as it is now… but, who knows…

        • fntsmk

          Skip,

          You remind me of me four years ago. The older we get, the more we see the futility of killing people. Would you just stop for a minute and ask yourself what belief system you would subscribe to if you were born in Iran? What would you think of America? What would you think of China if they, instead of America invaded Iraq and Afghanistan? How would you like it if China had military bases in Mexico and Canada? Do you realize that if our economy and dollar is destroyed, there will be NO America as we know it, left to defend? Watch the video IOUSA on youtube. Then support Ron Paul. Like it or not, Ron Paul is the only hope you have to keep up the militarism about the world which you support. If the dollar goes bust and ceases to be the world’s reserve currency, our biggest issue of the day will be trying to keep from starving to death. Watch the vid, IOUSA and get back to us.

        • fntsmk

          Skip,

          Here’s something to ponder… With all this talk about “if we hadn’t stopped Hitler…” I wonder what Hitler had on his mind when he was invading the whole of Europe. As he was bombing and killing innocent people to advance his Third Reich, was he doing so just for the territory or did he think he was bringing a better form of Gov’t to these people? Either way, he WAS bringing his vision of Gov’t through force of arms, to other Sovereign Nations. Gee, kinda’ sounds like what America’s been doing these days… The last justified military action by the U.S. was when we kicked Saddam out of Kuwait. Everything since has been spreading of “vision of Democracy” right? Wrong. It’s all about control of oil in the Middle East. I used to think the protesters with the “No Blood for Oil” signs were “traitors.” Now I see that they were a few years wiser than I was. With age (and the Internet) comes wisdom. Please visit my pro-paul website called kookyronpaul dot com and check out the vids on the home page. Then, if you care to see Ron Paul’s views on the issues, enter the site.

          • skip

            you’re waaaaaaaaaaay off track here… “a better form of govt for his people” ??? hahahaha… that’s a good one… hitler was power hungry with the idea of usurping as much of the world’s land masses, people and resources as possible with no thoughts about bettering the plight of ‘his’ people… he totally duped his people… were they desolate/without food, etc.??? i don’t think so… do you think that if he was successful with his dastardly deeds that he would have cleaned up any and all corrupt conquered govts and given the power/land/resources back to the indigenous people for their enjoyment and to prosper under a dictator free environment, and then let them do their thing??? i don’t think so… i believe he wanted to be the dictator and puppeteer of the world… and, what do we do??? except for the idiot now in the white house, we warn but do not interfere unless pushed into a corner, and then react… sure, not with swift pervasive action (i think to limit civilian population casualties to the extent possible), but we at least react… re saddam, he had tons of opportunities to fess up re wmd, and stonewalled attempts to determine just what existed and his intentions were… he put a target on his back and he knew it… he had wmd (chemical) and used it on his own people killing thousands… and he used this deterrence to keep iran at bay… do you think he just dumped it and could maintain the status quo based on a bluff??? i don’t think so… we found about 30 of his military aircraft buried in the sand… why he did this, who knows… did he also do the same with the wmd??? there’s some thought that he transferred it out of country… again, who knows… bottom line, if we were akin to hitler, just about the entire world would be under our control…

          • fntsmk

            Skip,

            We know Saddam had chemical weapons… we sold them to him.

            Watch the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo

          • fntsmk

            Again, I don’t know what Hitler had in his mind but…, his actions of invading countries and instigating ‘regime change’ is no different than ours. He wanted territory, we want foreign natural resources, i.e., OIL.

            Don’t you see a slight problem with supporting Saddam then killing him, supporting Osama then killing him, oh and by the way, spending Trillions of dollars doing it?

            I’m afraid that the only way Americans will be able to put themselves in the shoes of the peoples of the Middle East is to get bombed into the stone age by a country like China and have 10 million Chinese occupy America. Otherwise, it seems the America publice will cling to the propaganda programmed to us by our Gov’t and Mass Media.

      • Anthony San Diego

        Well stated Captainshays. Unfortunately, the ignorant will choose to remain ignorant and that will bring about chaos at warp speed.

  • Clarence Jaeger

    In a speech in San Francisco, top Gen. Wesley Clark recounted a memo drafted by former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s office in the wake of 9-11 that was brought to his attention by a top Pentagon official. The neo-con’s plot, he was told, was “to attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years—we’re going to start with Iraq and then we’re going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Iran.” Clark said the neo-cons “wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, and make it under our control.” This plan was already established in 1991 by Defense official Paul Wolfowitz.
    Ron Paul said these people are not attacking us for what we are but for what we are doing to them. Is he right????

    • fntsmk

      He’s absolutely right and all one has to do is search US-Iran relations to see that we’ve been interfering in Iran since we overthrew their gov’t in 1953. We also “installed” and supported Saddam Hussein in the Eight Year war between Iraq-Iran. Search Afghan-Soviet War to see how we supported and armed Osama bin Laden and the Mujahideen. The people that go online and claim that Ron Paul is lying or is a ‘kook’, or crazy are either blatantly lying themselves, to discredit Dr. Paul, or they’re to lazy or too stupid to do the Wikipedia searches themselves.

    • Captainshays

      The Project For A New American Century (PNAC)

  • Walter D. Shutter, Jr.

    You can call it Isolationism. You can call it Non-Interventionism. No matter what you call it, it sure looks better than what we have been doing.
    Consider: We are now almost out of Iraq where, after almost a decade, we lost 4500 servicemen dead, 35,000 servicemen wounded, and nearly a TRILLION dollars. And for what? To replace one corrupt whack job who hated us with another corrupt whack job who hates us?
    Consider: We have been in Afghanistan for MORE than a decade playing whack-a-mole with the Taliban with no end in sight. And the longer we stay, the more it costs us in blood and treasure.
    Next door is Pakistan which we have been propping up forever it seems. And what have thay been doing? Taking our aid, harboring our enemies, including the Taliban, and generally crapping on us every chance they get. We should withdraw our support. Then the Indians might cross the border and wipe them out to the last goat. Now,THAT’S intervention we can live with!
    Finally, if you MUST have an interventionist foreign policy to feel like you’re making a difference in the world, consider restricting said policy to our own Hemisphere. There are dictators to our South who could use a long vacation from the stress of one-man rule.

  • http://GETREAL luca brazie

    ron paul has the bird suit on 24 hours a day and belongs in meadow-view in a straight jacket ,after 4 years of this commie in charge we don’t need it to be followed by a real wing nut. people of iowa you better get off of that brand of hemp your smoking because this election is for the life of this country and we don’t need any more experimenting….

    • fntsmk

      More experimenting? So you want to just keep on doing more of the same that we’ve been doing since WWII? Yeah, that’ll bring real change like the failed ‘experiment’ that we have in the White House now. You’re an Establishment schill, or a lunatic. Either way, I hope you’re not old enough to vote.

  • Jim Daniels

    To The Dumby That Said Ron Paul Is A Libatariarn Well LOOK What The TWO PARTY STRONGHOLD HAs Done To America The SAMe People Control BOTH SIDES He Is Only One That Up Holds The Constatution And Get Rid Of Fed Reserve / It Does Not Belong To gov

    • Richard Walker, III

      Jim, please go get a brain before you post next time…

      • Anthony San Diego

        Looks like that frontal lobotomy hasn’t worked out for you Richard.

  • Joyceann

    Any man who sucks up HARD CORE NASTY FANATICS scares me…more cult like than people doing their homework. Why are you called Paulbots? Mindless machines who attack people, call them names, and refuse to consider a point of conversation? You do more harm in your selfish clinging in our fight to rid the USA of Obama than help Paul. You cannot hide the fact the man is old and in the throes of early Altzheimers – He can be sanely talking – then suddenly goes into a senseless rant. Proof enough for me. I will vote for anybody who isn’t a Socialist.

    • fntsmk

      Look up the definition of Socialist, then vote for Ron Paul.

  • Richard Walker, III

    I read some of the comments here and I see that there are many ostriches living in ivory towers these days. Skip, of the many here, has got it pretty much right. I spent over 16 years flying for the “royalty” in Saudi Arabia and the UAE, and I learned much about islam.

    Probably the first thing I learned was how islam was more intolerant than the left wing loonies here in America. At least you can reason with them after a fashion. islam knows no reason, and if you disagree with any aspect of it (especially as a Dhimmi), you are blaspheming and will likely get your head cut off. We allow muslims their religion here in America because we are tolerant, but it is as if we were allowing the Nazis to come in and spread propaganda at will during WWII. I ask anyone who thinks islam is tolerant to find me a church or synagogue anywhere in Saudi Arabia.

    islam (which means “submission” in Arabic) is not and will never be a religion of peace. How can it be, when the founding prophet tells that allah has commanded all good muslims to go out and kill the infidel wherever he is found? The stated goal is to first wipe out the Jews, and then to either kill or subjugate all non-believers in the world in the establishment of a world wide caliphate. Anyone who thinks they could “co-exist” with islam should think of co-existance in the terms of co-existing with the Nazis as a Jew, or co-existing with Stalin as a capitalist. Enjoy the Gulags…

    Having said what I know to be true through personal experience, I will assure anyone willing to listen that the stated Iranian goal is to establish the world wide caliphate, and their president sees it as his responsibility to bring chaos into the world, which will call forth the “mahdi”, or 12th imam, who will then see to the establishment of the caliphate (world wide rule of islam). His plan, as he has quite clearly stated, is to wipe Israel off the map (the big satan) and then wipe out America (the little satan). So I ask Dr. Paul, what do you think he will do once he has a nuclear weapon…? Do you think you will be able to talk him out of using it (a la Neville Chamberlain)? Yeah, that really worked with Hitler, didn’t it? Iran gets the bomb, it WILL be used. Me, I prefer breathing the air of freedom granted by the blood of our military wherever they must be sent to deter madmen from tearing down civilization to fit their own mad visions. In case anyone is wondering, I was an F-4J Pilot (USMC) during Viet Nam. I didn’t shed any blood, but I was ready and willing to die for my country for what it stood for, not because I had orders.

    I actually like Dr. Paul and some of his ideas. But to have him in control (like Obama is in control) in the White House and following what he has outlined as his foriegn policy (especially as it applies to Iran) I find unacceptable. Anyone who votes for him should then go live as a Dhimmi over in Saudi Arabia to get the “feel” of what is coming when islam rules. I’m not really fond of Romney or Gingrich myself, but whoever wins the GOP nomination has my vote because, like someone said in these posts, a beer can could do a better job than Obama. We had better hang together folks (I’m speaking to the conservatives here), or we will surely hang separately.

    • fntsmk

      If I don’t like you, your philisophical, political, and religious views does that give me the right to threaten you or do harm to you? If everyone in your neighborhood owned a gun but you didn’t, and they all hated you and threatened you, wouldn’t you want a gun too? If you went to the “gun store” to buy a gun, and all of your armed neighbors were blocking the door to the gun store, to refuse you access to buy a gun, would that trouble you? If you went home and decided to make your own gun, on your own property, and your neighbors got wind of that and decided to block your driveway so you could not earn a living or go to the store for food for you and your family, would you be upset by that? If you were born and raised in Iran, do you think you would have the same belief system that you have now? You have a belief system that you were taught by your parents and the society in which you were reared, and that wasn’t your choice. Muslim children have their belief systems taught to them by their parents and the society in which they were raised and its not their fault. Who are we to say our beliefs are so much better than theirs, that we get to go over there and kill them if they don’t fall in line with what we tell them?

      • skip

        the only problem with this post is that ahmadinejad (note that in the middle of his last name is the word “mad”) doesn’t want a nuclear device to keep the peace in his neighborhood and to act as a deterrent… as i understand it, he wants to use it to create a power base to at least decimate israel (do you think israel will sit back on their hands and just let that happen??? hahahaha, yeah, right) and most likely, now that we’re gone, take over iraq… and, if these actions are forthcoming, what’s next??? he’s been fighting a proxy war on many fronts for a long time, and the only reason he stayed away from iraq was saddam’s military machine deterrence… in your example, if i’m your neighbor and i think you’re crazy, like i think ahmadinejad is, maybe not so much clinically but power crazy, and maybe clinically, too, you betcha i’m going to try to keep you from getting a gun, if for no other reason than to keep you from your power crazed rants and the attempted killing of me and my neighbors… again, as i understand it, all of iran’s neighbors DO NOT want them to have a nuclear weapon for the very same reason i have just stated…

        • fntsmk

          Kim Jong Il, devil rest his commie soul, built and tested nukes and threatened to use them on both South Korea and the U.S. Why aren’t we talking about bombing N. Korea’s nuclear facilities? Krushev in the 50′s was banging his shoe on the podium saying the USSR would “crush” America. He was as mad as Achmadinejad. All posturing. U.S. keep Israel on a leash like a dog. Stay out of Israel’s business and let them take care of themselves. If you Muslim-o-phobes really want to destroy Iran, then let them get a nuke. If they use it on Israel, the overwhelming nuclear response from both Israel and the U.S. will annihilate Iran and then you guys won’t have to worry about them anymore.

        • fntsmk

          Skip,

          You didn’t answer the questions brother. Please answer the questions about how you would feel if it were YOU that everybody disagreed with and would not let you develop your own technology on your own property.

    • Captainshays

      So if we secure our borders. Bring our troops home to protect our waterways, coasts, borders and international airports. If we use the money we save from policing the world and maintaining 700 bases in over 150 countries to build a workable missile defense system and extensive civil defense system, arm our citizens to protect their own neighborhoods and inspect the 36,000 shipping containers that enter our country every day because we don’t have the manpower to inspect them, then still the hordes of Muslims will come and get us? Why? Just because we’re infidels of course. It doesn’t matter that we wouldn’t tolerate Syrian or Iranian, or Russian or Chinese airfraft carrier battle groups off the coast of New Jersey, California or Florida nutbags in those countries should love us for having our’s in their part of the world for over 70 years. Though we wouldn’t tolerate them setting up bases in Canada or Mexico they should love us for doing the same in their part of the world. I tell you if they did, this Christian country would be declaring some kind of holy war against them for sure. I know that if the Iranians engineered a coup de atat to overthrow our legitimate leader and install in his place a ruthless dictator like our CIA did to Iran with the overthrow of Mossedec and the Shah I wouldn’t just take over their embassey and hold their hostages for 444 days. I would KILL every one of the S o B’s

      • fntsmk

        Cap’t,

        I ask the question of folks why they think Americans are morally superior to anyone else on Earth. Our Declaration of Independence dictated that “…all men are created equal…” Does that statement apply to only Americans, or does it hold true for all peoples of the Earth.

        The problem we face with the folks who hate Dr. Paul’s foreign policy is that they’re just like: Mitt, who said “God didn’t create America to be a follower,” and who wants to increase Naval Ship building from 6 to 15 per year and increase our Strategic Missile capability (WITH WHAT MONEY MITT?) and Newt who said he “hopes that America is involved in taking out Iran’s nuclear scientists, all covert, all deniable…” These people were taught from Kindergarten that America is the greatest country on Earth and can do no wrong, and that somehow, we are morally superior to all foreigners on the planet and we have been given Devine Dispensation by God to kill anyone who disagrees with us.

      • fntsmk

        Captain Shay for President!

    • skip

      hey richard, yeah, i kinda like paul, too, but his ideas about the world outside our borders leaves a bit to be desired… if we aren’t HEAVILY involved in world matters on a constant basis, i think in the long run we and many, many other countries which depend on us can ‘kiss it off for good’… if there are no world ‘cops’, overtly and covertly, keeping the peace as best they can, adios… talk about a scorched earth, whew… most of the respondents on this site have zero clue… do these people think that if we just sat back and let china, etc., do their thing re the total usurpation of the world’s land masses/people, that they’d not at some point target us??? you know that over time there have been many dictatorial powers that have only been refused their grabs because of us and our allies… anyone who thinks differently isn’t being real and lives in a dark closet…

      • fntsmk

        Here it is boss. Watch the vid. Google US-Iran relations. Google Afghan-Soviet war.

        youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo

        Then get support Ron Paul for President in 2012.

    • fntsmk

      Richard,

      I have to apologize to you in that I did not read your entire post. I see that you have a great deal of experience on Islam from your time in the Middle East. I don’t agree with Islam because of my upbringing and I do believe that Islam is not at all a tolerant religion. So let’s kill them. I’m for killing them all if it will put everyone’s minds to rest. Make me President and I’ll nuke ‘em all, men, women, children, goats, camels, whatever. What I wouldn’t do, is try to kill ‘em one at a time over a ten-year period which will certainly, within that timeframe, destroy our economy and our Nation as we know it. You ass-kicking, war-mongering, Islam haters just don’t get that we can’t keep printing, borrowing, and spending money forever. You’re so focused on “getting the ragheads,” that you don’t realize that if we don’t turn our spending policies around in a very drastic fashion, then there will be no America to defend against your supposed Islamic enemies. Rep or Dem; white, black, hispanic; hawk or dove; straight, gay, bi; pro-life or pro-choice; right to work or pro-union; etc, etc,… NONE of that will matter if our economy and the dollar is destroyed. If that happens, our biggest issue of the day will be trying not to starve to death.

    • fntsmk

      Richard,

      I forgot…thanks for your service brother!

      From a Navy Vet.

    • William

      Before I proceed, Thank you for your service.

      That having been said,

      If Islam ever rules this nation it will not be because of a president.

      It will instead be because American Patriots sat idly by on their asses and let it happen.

      In short, it will be the fault of every American unwilling to rise to the call and fight off the assault on our nation. Plain and simple.

      Quit whining and moaning about one man’s abilities or inabilities. Quit living in the fear of any disaster. Get off your asses and make yourselves ready.

      Eternal vigilance and preparedness are the prices of Freedom. these dues are expected from anyone and everyone who wishes to be and to remain free.

      This was after all one of the founding philosophies of the 2nd Amendment. That the people be at all times armed. That means every “Able Bodied American”.

      Sorry asses!!! Hiding behind our Brothers and Sisters in uniform. Cringing in fear at the feet of our government.

      The Constitution never made provision for a standing Army. It did allow for a Navy both Sea and Land forces (USMC).

      The rest was to be at the state level, the Militia and the volunteer Militia. The state was supposed to maintain and train the Militia to be ready to respond to any threat. Willing volunteers were to be trained also. The reason for this was simple. Given the sheer numbers of available Militia and voluntary Militiamen It would be impossible for any enemy to mount a successful attack on our nation.

      We as a nation abandoned this part of the Constitution in the 1960′s. Look where we are today!!!

      The further we stray from the Constitution the further down we slide.

      Everyone wanders who’s gonna put this nation back on track, I can answer that.

      No one except those willing to get off their asses and get involved.

      Everyone cries, “Who’s gonna stop Islam from claiming America”? I can answer that also.

      “Those who are likened unto the men and women from the Revolutionary War, WWI and WWII. Those who are willing to put their asses on the line and say “No”and fight like hell to defeat the enemy at hand.

      Whining and crying ain’t gonna cut it. Never has, Never will.

      Make ready or Bow down!!!

      The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
      Samuel Adams

  • Buck

    Ron Paul has eliminated himself with his hatefull rhetoric , vote for the only TRUE conservative with a chance of winning , ELECT MICHELE BACHMANN FOR PRESIDENT .

    • fntsmk

      Hateful rhetoric? You must be really scared of Dr. Paul to write such lies about the man.

  • Victor Barney

    Too little too late Ron Paul! Obama is not only the “forbidden foreigner” put over u.s.(Gen. 48:16) in Deuteronomy 17:15, but he also is the self-professed “Anti-Christ”(Marxist) over u.s. in Revelation, chapter 11! Things will really start to get even more interesting on September 16, 2012, which is the Feast of Trumpets(war). Watch!

  • joesixpack31

    I support almost all of Ron Pauls libertarian positions…practically… with the exception of his “butt kissing” tolerance/acceptance of the islamic invasion and attempted takeover of my “homeland” the USA. From all indications, if Paul became president, he would not be prepared to move against this subversive sub-culture that has come to infest the US….islam. Libertarian policies are fine but should not be pushed beyond the point where they become policies of national suicide. Governments and politicians “sucking up” to muslim invasion are persuing a policy of national suicide.

  • Bruce R Porter Sr

    I’m a combat wounded Airborne Ranger and Special Forces guy.
    And, I’m for Ron Paul.
    Please not, Dr Paul gets more money from military types than all of the others combined….now, I’m asking, think there might be a reason???? From they guys and gals that have borne the brunt of the “interventionalist” desires of our politicians and banksters.
    Dr Paul has said that Israel could take care of itself if the US let them…..He’s 100% correct. If Iran attacks Israel Iran will no longer exist…..and the rest of Islam will talk a lot and breathe a sigh of relief.
    Now, to the one that has read the Constitution and thinks that we should remain in constant war. Really? To serve what purpose? You actually believe that our little country of 300 million or so is going to survive fighting the other 6 BILLION? How much combat time do you have anyway? And how much combat time do you want you and yours to have?
    Do you really believe that the Constitution requires us to be the big bully on the block and spend all of our time and resources beating every other country into submission and make them “democracies”?
    As best I can figure the only folks that have consistently won the wars are…..THE BANKSTERS! They finance both sides and enslave both governments with their usury.
    Instead of all this noise and hatred, spend some time studying the Constitution, the founding fathers, and Ron Paul’s site. See what he really says instead of this hyperbole….
    And always “follow the money”.
    I have to admit, the more rabid the hate talk is toward Dr Paul the more convinced I am that he is the correct choice.
    Kinda like being a Christian. Since everybody hates us now, including our own government, it becomes more convincing. Attacking Christmas? Why? Why is that so important to you?
    BTW, I was an atheist…..but the anti-Christians sold me on becoming Christian.

    • fntsmk

      Bruce, I agree with you brother, if folks don’t like Iran, the best way to get rid of Iran is to let them get and use a nuke on Israel. I for one don’t believe, no matter what brand of Islam Iran follows, that they would be stupid enough to use a nuke on anyone, in a preemptive fashion. But if they did, then as you say, Iran would cease to exist in less than an hour from the overwhelming nuclear response from Israel ( and perhaps our Trident Subs). Then the Iran haters could sleep better at night.

      Thanks for your service brother!
      Navy vet.

    • CJ

      I agree, Bruce. Thank you.

  • RancidCrabapple

    There is one truth “Ron Paul”, and then there are two lies, the republican establishment and the democrat national committee. In reality there are not two national political parties, but just one because the GOP and The DNC are merely evil twins and are almost mirror images of the other. Granted, there are great differences in the platforms of each party, but the republicans abandoned the platform decades ago, and became socialist/communist/democrats and while they play act and feign opposition to the agenda of the democrats, they secretly aspire to it. If the GOP does not share the same views and ideology of the socialist/democrats, why is it we now find, as a nation, that we are indeed a “nation of socialist programs and resgulations that are stripping away the last vestiges of our heritage, our freedoms and liberties.
    Have you noticed that “the great conservative, and champion of the tea party, the constitution, liberty and freedom, a small government” Republican Senator, Jim Demint not only voted for, but championed the NDAA (national defense authorization act) which allows the government and the military to arrest any American citizen, without charges, without a warrant, without a defense attorney, without habeas corpus, without a trial, without hope of ever going to trial, without ever being freed from prison, without even so much as a hearing before a judge, and they can send you to a detention center (gulag) in a foreign land.

    • CJ

      Yes, DeMint did vote yes on the original S.1867 which did not include American citizens, but when Obama and his Admin changed the wording to INCLUDE America citizens, he voted no.Still, they should have voted no to begin with.
      Marco Rubio voted yes on the final bill- a Tea Party candidate, yea, right.

      • Hawkfan

        When liberty yields, tyranny gains.

  • jerry1944

    Being a conservative and vet I dont see us not in wars to help ppl be free. and we cnat turn our backs on some of the places we have been in. The only way i would vote for paul is if i ahve to vote 3rd party And its looking like that with what some of the gops want to put up again I am for Bachmann and hope she gets the nod

    • fntsmk

      Well then, you won’t mind if China sends 200 million troops to the U.S. to help us be “free” then, would you?

  • off plum

    Loyal American
    I agree, the globalist have been funding world government puppets for many years to get them in office to do their bidding, which is to undermine our constitution and sovereignty. The Republicans being offered to us are working for the same Bastards that Obama is. Ron Paul is the only canidate with no connections to the global banking cartel. What’s at stake this election? The whole ball of wax. If we do not get back to the constitution, this country will collapse and that is for sure, as the globalists are destroying the currency and the economy as we speak and Obama is taking measures to send anyone that don’t like it to a FEMA detention camp. Martial law is what Obama wants, as a way to suspend the elections and the constitution. If republicans cannot come together to support the only true conservative and none war mongring, central bank hating and globalist destroying constitutionalist, its over. Nothing will stop the traitors in office from bringing it all crashing down, except the constitution.

  • off plum

    Steven F

    What are you even talking about? He’s a vet, he has more active military supporters than all the other republican canidates combined. They support Paul because he doesn’t believe in sending our troops into a meat grinder without a declaration of War. The UN is in control of the armed forces, not congress as its supposed to be.
    I support the troops, bring them home to defend this country from Obama and the socialist takeover of our country.

  • Terry Black

    It seems now that Ron Paul ( the only nominee with a non-globalist agenda and a true Constitutionalist ) has took a lead in the Iowa Polls the mud slinging has started!

    Google the following article – Gingrich Linked Propagandist Recycles Debunked Ron Paul Smear

    • fntsmk

      Oh Terry, it’s all over the internet! They’re going to throw the kitchen sink at the good Doctor from here on out. The good news is that Dr. Paul has perservered for over 35 years of folks lying about him and calling him bad names, he can weather the storm. And the more the anti-Pauls try to debase him the stronger his support will get! Ron Paul in 2012!

  • CJ

    Samuel Pettengill, a Congressman in the 1930′s wrote a book(1940′s) titled “Smoke-Screen”. Here is one quote from the book:
    “The progress will be gradual, but the end inevitable. There will be no coup d’etat. The march will be step by step and by muffled tread. It will move under the smoke screen of laudable “objectives” to its hidden goal. That goal is National Socialism.”

    The D objects to the R, but it still passes.
    The R objects to the D, but it still passes
    And they keep marching.
    With the passing of NDAA, may it’s going to slow for them. It’s been 60-70 years since this quote.

  • marv Carman

    Paul and Bachmann ticket for 2012 and will win it all. Other would be Paul and Palin would be a dream ticket for 2012………….

    • fntsmk

      I could vote Paul/Bachman. I don’t think the Dr. would ask her to be VP unless she opened up her eyes about our illegal and immoral militarism and blood for oil campaigns. But Ms. Bachman, unlike what a lot of people say, is a very smart lady. She could learn a lot from Dr. Paul in four years.

  • http://hotmail Beverly Kaleiohi

    Ron Paul is in a class of his own…..He finds nothing the matter with an crazy, insane, Iranian that wants to kill all Americans and Jews making a nuke!….Give me a break!….He has no idea of the Islamic takeover agenda!…….Or the Muslim’s Sharia law…. Just look what they have done in Europe ……And thanks to the Muslim in the WH it is starting up here in America ……We need a president that will stop this from happening to America!……Bachman and Santorum are looking better each day……You will know when they begin to rise in the polls….Just look for the smears… All the other candidates are true RINO’s

    • fntsmk

      You’re a stupid female. Let me be totally sexist here. You’re a f***ing stupid female who has no idea of what the military is like, what getting bombed and shot at is like, or what Iran and their people are like. You’ve never been to Iran have you? How do you know what they are like? Because your Gov’t and Mass Media have told you so? Certainly, those two entities would not lie to the American public, now would they? Sometimes I wish China would send 200 million troops to invade America and bomb our cities so Americans can get a taste of what we’re doing to other countries. You’re a stupid, ignorant, uninformed, female who shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

  • ChazChan

    Do you Paul cultists have Ron Paul shrines in your homes, with little Ron Paul bobble-head dolls and votive candles?

    • fntsmk

      Yes. Do you have a Gingrich Centerfold in your bathroom?

      • MadmaxUSA

        Great comeback!

  • Patriot

    Sorry folks but it’s not going to make much difference if you elect someone who wants to maintain this life sucking military budget if we don’t have the money to pay for it.

  • Hawkfan

    Any one of you above who commented – if you truly believe in the United States and wish to stop the great cycle of dependency and entitlements, the first priority is replacing our current commander in chief. Then we must focus on electing more constitutional conservatives, of which Mr. Paul is a great example. So is Bachmann and Santorum. Unfortunately, these 3 are likely the least electable due to the moderates in the election (Bachmann or Santorum) or due to the social conservatives who don’t like Paul. I say, to all of you, get over it and let’s get the current bum out.

    • fntsmk

      If everyone who said Ron Paul can’t get elected would support Dr. Paul, the man could stop campaigning and play golf from now until Nov. 2012 and still the General Election in a landslide. That’s the sad thing for America. The people for the first time in a generation have a chance to take back their Gov’t and instead of taking that opportunity, they’d rather say, “He can’t get elected, he can’t get elected.” If Ron Paul does not win, I’m taking early retirement and buying some land to grow food on.

    • http://www.libertyandhope.blogspot.com/ xRedfoxx

      If you want to help unite the GOP, then vote for Paul. His supporters are very loyal. Bend a little and let’s get united behind him!!

  • Nanette

    It is what it is. Truth for sure, we will be looking at the worst of two evils no matter who runs. There are some very good points Ron Paul makes, but he does not have all the answers, he is an extremist for sure! I have followed each debate of all the candidates, each one sends me info to my e-mails. I just know this for sure, if Ron Paul makes it to be the nominee for President , he will be sliced, diced, chopped and pureed by the Obama mainstream corrupt media and internet people! He will not have a chance, just fact. If he splits the ticket to run as a third party, once again we really lose, we will be stuck with Obama. Most Americans are either to the right or left on center, this is just a fact, whether we like it or not. You have to look at his tract record, not very impressive. It is not what he believes that is the problem, it is being able to implement them..which will not happen.

    • fntsmk

      “Tract” record? Ron Paul is only an extremist in the sense that he makes sense. If you don’t believe that our Government and Mass Media has not “brainwashed” the American Public then you’re not using your Internet service as you should be. Google and Youtube the truth that is Ron Paul and stop posting uninformed untruths. You are right about one thing though, if Ron Paul does not get the nomination then OhBugger wins because Ron Paul supporters will not vote for anyone but Ron Paul. So if you don’t want OhBugger Part II, you’d better support Ron Paul. Your choice.

  • http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com Shane

    The Libertarian loon Paul is a true RINO, a Republican-in-Name-Only. Paul has no loyalty to the GOP as evidenced by his vicious attacks on the other GOP candidates. Paul is an Isolationist whose foreign policy and views on Islam are more similar to Obama’s than to the other Republican Presidential candidates.

    • fntsmk

      You are a either a liar or an uniformed moron. Or both…

    • http://www.libertyandhope.blogspot.com/ xRedfoxx

      Shane is a liberal troll. He is often on here trying to stir up trouble. Ignore him.

  • Ann Wilson Kingsley

    Because we took out Iran’s arch enemy, Iraq, now, we are talking war with Iran because now Iran can focus on a lesser enemy, Israel. We Need to stop U.S. interference in the affairs of other countries. Germany is the most stable economy in Europe. Germany has nukes, an outstanding technically proficient. military, but no foreign bases. Germany spent trillions of dollars bringing East German out of the dark ages Post Berlin Wall. Now, when nations in the European Union are crashing, their citizens are moving billions a day into German banks because German banks are more stable. The U.S. and the U.K. maintain bases all over the world. With nukes and sophisticated modern warfare, maintenance of bases all over the world is laughable. While we undermine and practice destabilization in other countries, usually only to see a less desirable regime manifest, we are destabilizing our own economy, as has the U.K.

    • Ann Wilson Kingsley

      Replying to my own comment, we need to take a clue from Germany: Take care of our own country, and mind our own business instead of seeking to get into military conflicts at every turn. I’m beginning to believe we are trying to test every new piece of military equipment on real people instead of puppets. It is gruesome and ghoulish.

      • fntsmk

        Well said Ann. The purpose of war is two-fold: Test weapon effectiveness and control of natural resources; namely oil. The Military-Industrial Complex loves war because it keeps the war materiel assembly lines moving and the profits up. The Bankers love war because they get to finance both the destruction of countries and the subsequent rebuilding as well. Americans who work in the Military-Industrial Complex are okay with our military killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people as long as they can keep their jobs. It’s a sad commentary on Americans that can not or do not care to put themselves in the shoes of those who are on the receiving end of our bombs.

  • fred

    Judgement day is coming and Dr. Paul is carrying the noose!!!

  • MadmaxUSA

    The only hope for all of us is to listen to what the actual candidate says, in context, and unedited. Ignore political commentators of all stripes whether liberal, conservative, or otherwise. Especially, ignore the media. They are simply voicing their own opinions or the opinions of their editorial staff…in any case, an infinitesimally small portion of the populace.

  • Dean

    Thomas Paine, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson

    Were all NON-INTERVENTIONIST. They all believed (and rightly so) that while we as a country should have diplomatic and trade relations with other countries we should AVOID any agreements that would cause us to be obligated to intervene in their internal struggles or affairs.

    While non-interventionists are generally opposed to war like the isolationist. Non-interventionists believe there are times when war is necessary (self defense) where as the isolationist is ALWAYS opposed to war for any reason. Ron Paul is NOT an isolationist. He served this country in the military. He is not opposed to having trade relations or diplomatic relations with other countries. He is however in agreement with our founding fathers in not wanting to intervene in the internal affairs of foreign countries.