Ron Paul: Why Stop Iran From Getting Nukes?

It was disappointing to see Ron Paul completely take over the foreign policy portion of the Fox News debate. Paul made the point that we shouldn’t prevent countries like Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, I beg to differ. Allowing a person like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has promised to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth, to obtain nuclear weapons is equivalent to allowing terrorists to obtain nuclear weapons while expecting them not to use them.


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  • Larry

    Those of you that still think Ron Paul should be our next president after saying that he didn’t think we should prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons need to have your heads examined.

    What do you honest think Iran will do to Israel, the nation they hate with satanic hatred, once they have the ability to blow Israel into oblivion, and I might add, the United States as well?

    Wake up Ron Paul supporters. Do you really want to let them continue to develop nuclear weapons with an intent on destroying Israel and the United States? If your answer is yes, you need to pray God will give you enough spiritual discernment to know who your enemies are and what their true intentions are once they have the capabilities to launch a nuclear attack against Israel and the United States.

    • Vince

      Ahmadinejad is not so crazy that he wouldn’t realize that such an action would be a MAD (mutually assured destruction) event.

      • KnowTheTruthToday

        Yes sir, he is just that crazy.

        • BenUSMC

          Vince, You are right. Muslims believe that dying for Islam is
          a sure ticket to heaven. They believe that the U.S. is a nation
          of “infidels” and would sacrifice their country and everyone in
          it if they could destroy America and Israel. My personal belief
          is that Israel will destroy Irans nuclear capability before they
          get to use it. Israel cannot afford to allow Iran to develop
          nuclear weapons and the they will stop it soon. The
          aftermath of that destruction of nuclear capability is nothing
          compared to allowing them time to develop those weapons.
          Iran is also working on rockets as a delivery vehicle. Anyone
          who thinks they are going to use them to launch scientific
          satellites has their head in the sand. The leadership in Iran,
          both religious and government are a bunch of mad men.
          They are truly the most dangerous government on the planet.
          The opposition in Iran is getting no encouragement or help
          from the U.S. because Obama is either a Muslim or totally
          sympathetic to their madness. Expect nothing from Obama.
          Israel will take care of it and if they do we damn well better
          support their attacks.

          • Delaware Conservative

            Good to hear your views. Didn’t both Bush and Obama already refuse to give Israel what it wants/needs to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities? Bush’s policies toward Israel turned goofy, under the leadership of C. Rice, who was way in over her head. Obama’s policies are a disaster. It seems like Israel is into cyber warfare against Iran’s nuclear program as well as turning Iran’s top nuclear scientists into fatalities. Ron Paul has some great ideas, especially about shaking up the Federal Reserve. Too bad he marginalizes himself every election cycle with his foreign policy ideas.

        • Larry

          KnowTheTruthToday, you are absolutely right. The Iranian leader is just that crazy. He believes in his insane, nitwit brain that Iran would most likely be destroyed when he decides to blow Israel and the United States off the map, but this insane nut job thinks if he dies a martyrs death, he will wake up in the arms of 10 virgins just waiting to fulfill his sexual desires.

          Is he really THAT crazy. You bet he is!!!!!

          • J Dosh

            Wait until they find out all those virgins are old Catholic Nuns with rulers in hand…..lmao

        • monika

          Ahmadinejad IS that crazy. He denies that the holocaust ever happened. The man has got to be clinically manic depressive, bi-polar and a host of other afflictions which would explain his mental state.
          No Way would I EVER vote for Ron Paul.

        • colonialrevolutionary

          You do realize that Ahmadinejad is not the top guy in Iran and has NO control over their military…right? Or did the News leave that little tid-bit out?

      • Carole Lewis

        Those deranged people don’t care about the people in their countries. If they did, instead of having serveral houses with gold bathroom fixtures, along with the most elaborate furnishing, and big fancy cars,they should be spending that money on their people. The little peons on those countries, have nothing. Their children can’t even go to school. All of those “rulers” in the Middle Eastern are crazy. I don’t know about everyone else, but the thought of Iran or any other Middle Eastern country having nukes, scares me to death because they would have no problem firing them at us. Don’t forget that the hugh majority in this country are Christians. That would make us, infidel’s. According to the radical Muslims beliefs, that means, that means that, those of us who are not of Muslim faith, MUST DIE!!!! It would be a cold day in hell when I voted for anyone that made such a crazy comment, especially, when they are 75 yrs old.

        • monika

          Rock on Carol! Well said!

      • Mel Shofner

        Yes and no. I think he knows that Iran would get a lot worse than it gave, militarily. But he also believes that there needs to be a global clash of civilizations bringing epic destruction and chaos to bring about the return of the mahdi, basically their messiah, who would then defeat all the infidels and reestablish the global Islamic caliphate. And sadly, he seems to think that he’s just the guy for the job. Since there’s no higher calling for them than to die for Allah (and receive their reward of many willing virgins in heaven!), and we infidels are to be converted, enslaved or destroyed anyway, the death and destruction wouldn’t slow him down a bit.

      • SE Haworth

        MAD plays right into the islamic jihad ideology. Vince what planet are you living on that you don’t see that the islamic lunacy of suicide bombing is only in larger scale with a nuclear exchange between Israel and iran?! ahmadinejad has made it known that he believes that he is the one that is in the right time and the right place to destroy Israel. He does not care if the citizens of iran die…they have military suicide brigades! they use children to blow up innocents. If muslims die in a MAD retaliation, they’ll all be considered martyrs, and get their 72 virgins, or whatever it is that their warped murderous cult believes,

        I am not sure how the reality of the evil of islam and it followers, escapes anyone, especially Americans! WAKE UP AMERICA!

        • Vince

          Since when did rogue Muslim extremist groups become synonymous with entire regimes?

          • Mel Shofner

            Since their adherents took charge of those regimes? And are you sure that the extremists are the rogues, rather than the moderates? Might want to reread the Koran and the Hadiths.

          • monika

            The Quran clearly states that all that are not Muslims are infidels and that infidels must die. It also states that if a person is not willing to convert they are to either be enslaved or beheaded.
            I have a friend that went on a date about a year ago. The first date the man said he was a Christian. The second date he said he was a Christian. The third date he revealed that he was a muslim. When she refused to continue dating her he stated that she was not allowed to not date him because that was prejudice. He tried to FORCE her to continue dating him based on the fact that SHE was a woman and should do what he said. Fortunately my friend is a strong woman and she told him not to ever call again.

          • Vince

            Yes, I am wrong. Let’s attack Iran (and ignore that other nuclear hotbed Pakistan) and keep engaging in more wars.

          • Vince

            Sorry, Pakistan comment goes elsewhere.

            Monika, if every last Muslim subscribes to the belief of killing all infidels, I guess we had better get a leg up and start the killing first, eh?

            And It’s a good thing I befriended a Muslim who opened up his home to me when visiting the UK and didn’t have my throat slit while sleeping.

      • Mark G.

        You see, though, that’s the point. As Christians, we expect the end days to worsen and then Christ returns. In Islam, the 12th Imam will appear to resue the world when things are bad enough. Do you see the subtle, but critical, difference? Some Muslims believe they can hasten the return of the Imam by escalating suffering and violence, whereas no Christian do this in hopes of “making” Jesus return sooner.

      • judbudy

        Do you not get that Muslims don’t care. MAD isn’t a useful tool for them, hence the SUICIDE bombers. It is an honor to die for your country & he thinks he will come back so he does not care about anyone else. Even Saudia Arabia is concerned.

        • Vince

          You should stop lumping all Muslims in one pile. Some Muslims actually live lives that are not ruled by the destruction of the modern world. I know that’s hard for you fear-mongers to believe, but I’ve met these people, believe it or not, and I have seen their lives chronicled in documentaries.

      • John Galt

        Vince, you are wrong, he wants the 72 virgins! I do NOT care about Israel, they have never done anything for the United States, I only care about America and Iran will use the weapons!

        • Vince

          Israel can (and will) handle the nuclear threat. Otherwise we’d better prepare pre-emptive strikes against Pakistan and North Korea as well.

      • SamFox

        Ahh, here we go again! More war hawk neocon propaganda against America’s best hope, Ron Paul. If the fed govt had listened to Ron years ago about our relatively new foreign policy of US busy body bossy big sister interventionism, I doubt we’d have this discussion.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqGBBFiowE

        If they get a nuke what they gonna do with it? Heat their goat milk? I am getting tired of false flag attacks on Ron Paul regarding the ME. This is just one more diversion away from his greater fiscal program as he is the only real threat to status quo debt buidlers. Conservative Byte is not the only out let foisting diversions on us.

        Phony Fox News is doing it to. When disguised establishment CINO neocons are trotted out of hiding because a truly conservative true hope for America, the 1st in decades who would actually walk his talk, we know the establishment is becoming very nervous!!

        Here is a note I sent to Fox News’ The Five.

        Hi every one at The Five. This is information I am posting all around on the net. Needless to say, I am very disappointed in your propagandist portrayal of Ron Paul. You can dismiss me a crazy RP supporter if you want. I just post this, let the people decide.

        Fox is biased. But they are very sneaky about it. Like how most of the vapid talking heads keep saying Ron Paul is unelectable. Jive like that.

        The other day on Happening Now, one of the Phony Fox ‘News’ shows, Eric Bolling, Juan Williams & a coupla other ding bat ladies were snarking over ‘Crazy Uncle’ Ron Paul like something was wrong with him. Fox repeats the jive mantra about him being unelectable, isolationist & often something along the lines of the ‘Fed’ isn’t so bad.

        Isolationist?? Ron Paul? Hardly. Not even. No way. If RP is isolationist he is in good company with the US Founders. Ron says the same things they did regarding foreign policy. Trade, travel, friendly relations with all countries possible, entangling alliances with none. How does wanting to end printing $ based on thin air by the inflation machine, AKA the ‘Federal’ Reserve, or at least have an audit of their secret books, make one weird? Or ‘out there’???

        How does calling for a cessation of excuses to go to war & an end to undeclared war, like the one in Libya, bringing our troops home, stop policing ME countries borders & stop spending US $ building roads, bridges & so on when we are up to our nose in debt, equate to isolationist? These clowns on The Five are not the only ones. Spin master Bill O’R, Hannity, indeed, most of the Fox spouting heads, disparage Ron in sneaky little ways, though Fox has him on, IMO so they can boost their ratings.

        http://www.youtube.com/results

        Now I find that another Fox lady I used to like, SE Cupp, is saying Ron Paul is “out there” & Ron would be an albatross around the neck of the R half of the Big Govt Party, the D’s being the other half. As I was looking for media bias against Ron Paul I found another FOX CINO, Laura Ingraham who seems to be a sneaky, subtle understating CINO NEOCON shill when it comes to Ron Paul.

        http://www.dailypaul.com/126510/neo-con-laura-ingraham-poll-about-ron-paul

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNHYhTySro4

        In this interview Laura interrupts Ron Paul quite often, vainly trying to trip up the good doctor. She gets her lunch eaten.

        The only shows left on Fox now that are worth watching are Stossel & Freedom Watch with Da Judge. I WAS a big fan of Follow the Money, but when bottom line push comes to saving the country, Eric Bolling is a CINO.

        On Freedom Watch, Da Judge exposed the bias against Ron Paul by others at Phony Fox News some other ‘news’ outlets. Da Judge played this clip:

        .http://www.YouTube.com/watch?vs.=LfJ9Gv9AGG8

        I am a TEA conservative independent. I used to have hope for Fox News. Now I wonder how long Stossel, Cavuto, & Judge Napolitano will survive because they still push for Constitutional liberty & Da Judge & Stossel have Ron Paul on their shows as often as possible. Plus they don’t disparage Ron, they give him the cred he richly deserves by just letting Ron speak. Not a good thing at Fox these days…

        Looks like Fox News’ true Conservative In Name Only network colors are shining forth.

        SamFox

      • Troy

        Yes, he is that crazy. He’s trying to bring about the end of the world, literally.

    • John

      This guy is an idiot. If he doesn’t know why Iran should not have nuclear weapons, he has no business even being a candidate for the White House. Does he not know Iran wants to annihilate Israel and use those weapons on us. Is Paul that STUPUD? Apparently so, But then again this moron was critical of Obama for ordering the Navy Seals to kill Bin Laden because as Paul stated-Bin Laden was unarmed. Well so were 3000 people Bin Laden killed on 9/11. This man is as bad as Obama on foreign policy. Paul, drop out before you make yourself look like a bigger fool. What an idiot

      • RICH

        JOHN……YOUR NAIVE….AND IGNORANT. YOU Believe All The Lies Of Americas Media. Paul Is Correct……Balance Of Power. Israel Has Killed More Innocent People. Israel And “LIBERMAN” A Jewish Senator Want Ignorant People And The ‘GOYIM’ In America Like You To Die For Israel Sins.

        • judbudy

          John, you are one of the millions the media is fooling. Israel has taken more rockets than you can imagine. The are attacked everyday but if they send ONE back in retaliation, the media is all over it with those crazy rulers yelling they killed innocent citizens. Iran has killed more of it’s own innocent citizens than Israel could ever dream of.

          • judbudy

            Sorry, I goofed. This was to Rich’s reply to John.

        • John Galt

          Except for “the balance of power” you are correct. Israel has not done ANYTHING for the United States, I care about America first!

          PS: Look up the USS Liberty in any search engine, you will see what Israel thinks of the USA.

      • mike patton

        At least Ron Paul knows how to spell the word “stupid” stupid…..
        Ron Paul for President

        • Skip Gilmore

          It’s a typo, you idiot. Is that your best comeback saying Ron Paul can spell? You are such a loser if you thin Paul has any chance in hell to be elected, let alone nominated.
          He is good on internal policy, granted but he has no clue on foreign policy.

        • SamFox

          If Ron Paul is out in left field on foreign policy he is out there with our Founders. You really have been brainwashed by the war mongers on the L & R.

          What then is Ron’s foreign policy? Do you even know? Apparently, from your post, you are in the dark on RP.

          http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/fisk5.html

          http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul375.html

          Here is RP’s take on immigration:

          http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/

          You get an FFFF—– grade for not doing your home work. There is no excuse for such abysmal lack of fact based posting.

          SamFox

      • J Dosh

        I got that… If Ron Paul won’t stand with Israel the Tea Party won’t stand by him. We are much wiser than that!

      • Andrewk

        Do you people actually think Ron Paul is stupid when he say’s what he does? Every country in the world would like to have nuclear weapons. Why? Same reason we have them – to protect ourselves from invasion. We already watch every move Iran makes and if they even thought about launching a nuke that country would be turned to glass. What about the nut case in North Korea – he has Nukes but we don’t get bent out of shape about it. Israel can take care of themselves. Launching any kind of Nuke is a lose – lose situation and that is why we never had a nuclear attack in the cold war. If I just witnessed what happened to Iraq and I was Iran, I would want a way to protect myself too. The leadership in Iran may be a bunch of nut cases but, I don’t think they are totally stupid either.

    • American Patriot

      Iran has every right to have nuclear power. They signed the NPT and are progressing under inspections of the IAEA. They said they don’t want nuclear weapons, only power. On the other hand, Israel did everything illegal and under the table and acquired nuclear weapons. They refuse to sign the NPT and are the bully threatening Iran, Lebanon and other countries.

      • Vic

        Well said !

        • Are You Serious

          You can both ESAD.

        • judbudy

          American Patriot & Vic, you need both need a dose of reality & if you continue to listen to & support people like you, you are in for a rude awakening.

      • Law

        You are an idiot.

      • Skip Gilmore

        If the Muslims in the Middle East laid down their arms, there would be peace. If Israel laid down there arms, there would be no Israel.
        Figure it out, loser, or is that too difficult for some useful idiot progressive underwear blogger down in mom’s basement?

        • phil

          Keep learning your misinformation from FOX and CNN. Its painfully clear that you are the basement case. The Israeli people and their religious beliefs stops with the people of Israel. The Israeli Government don’t share the same view. I agree that the Muslims will keep fighting if the Israelis laid down the arms. But your missing a much bigger picture. Most believe Israel is one of our biggest allies. Then why has Obama given hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to the Palestinians and the Israeli Government didn’t seem to mind. The Palestinians are said terrorists so why is Oboma Giving them millions. Go look it up before you say I am full of crap.

      • Francesca

        Do you really believe what Iran say? Israel is the bully threatening Iran, Lebanon and other countries… what? Is Iran taht want to destroy Israel and not viceversa!

    • RICH

      LARRY…… ISRAEL HAS NUKES. Had Them For Over 15 Years. It’s A Lie That The Leader Of Iran Wants To Wipe Israel Off The Map. What He Said: We Need To eliminate The Terrorist Government Of Israel. Big Difference. Also…. Israel gets a Pass When they illegally Board a Ship on The high Seas Kill People On their Way with Food and Other Supplies To the Palestine People In The West Bank Of Israel. Stop Reading all the lies By America’s Jewish Controlled Media. Israel Has More UN Sanctions Against Her Then Any other Country in the Immediate area. As For Americas Friend”? Look Up The USS LIBERTY (1967) Jonathan Pollard American Jewish Spy,Israel selling F-4 Jet Engines To IRAN When At War With Iraq. Are You a Bolshevik””?

      • Larry

        Rich, you are as brainwashed as the people who love and support Obama.

        Either you have had your head stuck in the sand, or you have not been listening to the mad man leader of Iran say many, many times that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

        Thank God Israel has nuclear weapons to defend themselves from all the enemies that despise the Jewish race so much so that they have over the years made many attempts to rid themselves of the Jewish nation. And each time God has delivered His people from those hellbent on destroying them.

        When you mess with the land and people of Israel, you are messing with “the apple of God’s eye” and all that do so are inviting the wrath of God on themselves.

        • John Galt

          Larry; it was once said that “you must understand the language to understand the battle”. The terms: jew (small j), Jew (capital J), Israel, Zionist, Semite and Hebrew are all different and have different meaning. The same thing applies to: Arab, Islam, Palestinian, etc. There are also the terms of: race, nation and religion, all are different. These terms are bandied about to confuse us and to draw our attention away from the real issues (and evil) that confronts us today. What I am going to say many will take exception to, so in no particular order:

          1) The evil that confronts us today is Satan.
          2) The State of Israel (SoI) is a Zionist creation, not one of God.
          3) SoI is not and never has been a friend of the United States.
          4) The SoI has consistently used the United States and has wages war against us; i.e. USS Liberty, J. Pollard, et al.
          5) The religious Jewish people are indeed the apple of God’s eye, but the Zionist killed his only son Jesus Christ.
          4) Islam is the largest devil worshiping cult in the world.
          5) Both the SoI and Iran will use nuclear weapons against the United States.
          6) Communism was “invented” by Zionists; Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and thousands more were/are involved.
          7) The largest mass murder of ALL time was performed by Zionists, about 60,000,000 Christians were murdered in the USSR alone! Look up who ordered and performed the execution of Czar Nicholas II and his family!
          8) Islam is a religion of murder, rape and pillage!
          9) Mohammad is an anti-Christ.

          There is much much more with respect to the above items, and after 30 years of reading, study and observation I have only scratched the surface. Please remember this; “sometimes the devil fights among himself” and that is what is happening in the middle east today and for the last 100 years.

          • SamFox

            Good observations John G. Also remember that Jesus told John in Rev. that there is a synagogue of satan that call themselves Jews but do lie. That fits in here some where! :-)

            The apple of God’s eye? Once for sure! Now? Well, maybe not so much.

            Here is a site that has the Amplified Version.

            http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Amplified-Bible-AMP/

            Go there & read Romans 2:28-29 Gal. 6:16 Gal. 3:27-28 & Eph. 1:10.

            Jesus fulfilled all the OT religious economy & it has been culminated, fulfilled & placed into Him. The is why we are now free from the OT Law. He came not to destroy but to fulfill. He has done the fulfilling, or completion of the Law’s intent. Father has placed everything OT & NT in Christ.

            The Church does not replace Israel in God’s mind, Jesus does. Here is where wisdom is needed & the setting aside of ego. God has Israel in His heart. But they MUST come through Yeshua Messiah, just like every one else.

            I know this seems like ‘replacement theology’, so care must be taken. In a particular way it is, but His church has not done the replacing. God’s Messiah His son Yeshua Jesus has.This is not for immature believers who are not grounded in the Word.
            Hope you see what I mean.

            All the best in Him!!

            By the way, Ron is a believer, but he doesn’t use his faith as a vote attraction or manipulation tool like GWB did & Perry just did. Very admirable on Ron’s part IMO.

            SamFox

            SamFox

      • Skip Gilmore

        Are you serious?

      • Dale on the left coast

        I heard Acmeddinnerjacket say her was going to nuke Israel . . . when you don’t believe what the despots are saying??? Only a clueless lieberal would give him a pass.

      • John H

        You need to go back to school!

    • anders ekman

      Ron Paul is right…and YOU should wake up. Regardless of Abahdinijad’s (sp) blustering, the threat is nil to us, and unlikely to truly be a meaningful threat to Israel. Really? Iran’s 1 nuke to Israel’s 250 plus…not to mention their relative air force effectiveness. A nuclear strike would result in the complete obliteration of their country ( a country by the way, that hasn’t attacked another country since the early 19th century). Ron Paul is right…don’t be involved, take care of our own.

      • mike patton

        Right on Anders………….only Ron Paul has enough guts to speak the truth, even if it is politcally incorrect to do so……..if he does get elected I genuinely fear for his life…………he could be taken out by the global elites just like JFK was……

        • SamFox

          I think God would protect Ron. He is a Christian, JFK was a Catholic. Big diff.

          Not trashing Catholics, but they have a LOT of non Bible based stuff they use to replace the scriptures with.

          SamFox

      • owen

        They attacked Iraq and are supporting terrorist attacks in Lebanon and Gaza.
        point of fact: after Saddam withdrew from the Iranian province he invaded, the Iranians continued the war trying to invade Iraq. (Saddam’s poison gas saved his troops.)

    • greenteeth

      Ron has been on oboners lap too long.

      • SamFox

        I think your teeth are poisoning yer mind there gteeth.

        Ron Paul is a diametric opposite of 0. They have little if anything political in common.
        Particularly when it comes to fixing the USA.

        SamFox

    • Rio Sam

      So @Larry….who ya working for? The DNC? Or maybe the NEOCON Rick Perry? So it’s pretty obvious you want more of the same PUPPET PRESIDENT type to go to the White House in 2012….like I said “Who ya workin for?”

      • Larry

        Rio Sam, it is pretty obvious you haven’t been reading my comments about my thoughts on Rick Perry or any of the other GOP candidates running for office. I presently support none of them because of their lack of intestinal fortitude to have the usurper investigated for fraud and other violations of the Constitution.

        I am working as hard as I can to learn where all the candidates for president stand and I would suggest you do the same. I blindly support no man or woman simply because of what they say. I have learned to watch what they do more than what they say.

        • Vince

          You should apply that same cynicism when considering Israel’s actions in the world. Would the God of Israel be okay with his people using deceit to drum up support for their cause? There is a difference between Jews and Zionists.

          See: jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html

          • John Galt

            Wow!

    • http://yahoo.com tod

      Screw you, who are We to police the Whole World,bring our troops home to gaurd our own borders ,and pick up all the aliens and ship them home. We Need Dr. Ron Paul for he is the only candidate running who stands 100% behind our Constitution,Bachmann didn’t want to mess with Barry’s Birth certificate,We need people who do.If she can’t see that Barry is Ineligible to be President,then she is either on his side or to damn dumb to be President .

      • SamFox

        You are well named Whack.

        Have any citations for your untrue drivel? You have no clue regarding Ron or his position of the border issues.

        SamFox

    • Dave

      As soon as Ahmadinejad launches ONE nuke at Israel, the state of Iran will disappear in one giant mushroom cloud. Problem solved!

    • Jack the FAC

      Ron Paul has shown he is totaly out of touch with reality where dealing with rogue nations is involved.

      • SamFox

        Jack, another misinformed poster. So show us your proof. Or please go back to your coloring book.

        Thanks.

        SamFox

    • Luis R Vazquez

      To have a person like Ron Paul as a member of Congress is a disgrace.
      He should go to Obama’s side.

      • http://yahoo.com tod

        How much are you being payed by Democrats?

      • SamFox

        Couldn’t be paid very much. Luis put up nothing substantial, just Rules For Radicals jive. And not even much of that!

        Luis, your ignorance is the real disgrace. How about reading some of the links we have put up. Then get back.

        SamFox

    • texasjayhawker

      May the LORD have mercy on us. I just have a hard time believing you people are so ignorant as to the way things Realy are! Do you people not read and study history? (Of course you have to be careful where you get you history. After all, the word history is acutaly two words put together, HIS & STORY, you understand? He who wins the fight, wrights his story.) America must defend herselt first & foremost!!! Our (well I mean me and people like me who believe in the Consitution, the Creator-CHRIST JESUS, and freedom, libery & justice for mankind) emeny (first & formost is the “synagogue of satan”) today is communist Red China, armed, directed, guided, enriched, at our expense, by our TRUE, as a CHRISTAN NATION, emeny. Why did our government allow them to become so Powerful? You sheep must wake-up! You will become the “unwashed masses”, the “GOYIM”. May JESUS watch over me & his childred in these times of treason, decepsion, pretending, usurping, & evil. Thank You

      • John Galt

        Yes; God is infinite in power, but He also gave us free will and we must use that gift wisely.

      • texasjayhawker

        It is simple friend, the LORD JESUS gave us rope to hang ourself with. You see, you was raised above the animal kingdom but HIS Grace of “free will”. What a better way to clean out your childred but let them think they are “gods” and hang themselves. Thank You, may the LORD YESHUA bless his people.

      • SamFox

        Hey it’s uninformed Whack again! Hi ya Whack!

        That’s where we come in. Jesus & my Daddy let us have free will. So we gotta put up with a lot. Ignorance not the least.

        God lets us make our choices. He also lets us enjoy the consequences + or -.

        SamFox

    • Susan Weselnick

      I completely agree with you, Larry. That debate showed me just how far “out there” Ron Paul really is.

    • Tom

      Get your own head examined!
      Did Iran threaten to wipe the UNITED STATES off the map? NO. WE are NOT Israel.
      Israel is perfectly capable of protecting themselves – it’s about time that they are allowed to do so! Nobody is going to nuke Israel, unless they have no problem with being exterminated themselves.
      We can no longer afford to maintain 800 military bases around the world, fight unnecessary, illegal wars, and be the world police – if you haven’t noticed yet, WE are bankrupt!!!

      • Francesca

        Tom after Irael there will be the U:S.! So this should interest all of you!

      • John H

        Yes, Iran has!

        First off, WWI and WWII both came about because we chose to be isolationists. We wanted to mind our own business and stay out of everybody else’s affairs no matter how dire and finances was the excuse. Well we let everything fester until it blew up on our door step. The lesson should have been learned but then every new generation tends to sleep through the history and civics classes and are hell bent for election to repeat history. We can’t be everybody’s Sugar Daddy or play mommy to the world. We just don’t have the resources and finances to do that but there are times when we do need to get involved to prevent a catastrophe. The best time to treat an injury is when it occurs, not after it goes septic!

        Lessons learned, hopefully: Be pro-active on the world scene; Don’t make pacts with the Devil, Quit being everybody’s Sugar Daddy; And recognize when helping turns into enabling.

        We don’t get involved in another country’s affairs if it involves making a pact with the devil and we don’t help nobody unless invited or will be received with gratitude and with the expectation of repayment of some kind. We have expectations of fit and proper behavior within our society and that standard should apply to anybody we deal with as a nation. If their character does not reflect our values then that should be a serious factor in any dealings with them. These are principles that are not embraced by our diplomatic core or anybody in DC and are behind the shortfalls in our international relations. Their absence is why we keep making pacts with the devil.

        • John Galt

          Interesting; lets start:
          WW1; 200,000 American soldiers dead. Not our war, we were dragged into it by Wilson. The Rothschild and the “Bilderberg Group” were making enormous profits from the war by lending to both sides and guaranteed Britain that they could get America to join the “Allies” if Britain rejected the German Peace Proposal in 1916. Germany never attacked the United States first.

          WW2; 400,000 American soldiers dead & 1,200,000 wounded.
          Not our war, this war was a contest between National Socialism and International Socialism, freedom was the big looser! Roosevelt promised his two buddies, Stalin and Churchill, that we would come to their aid. We fired the first shot; Roosevelt ordered convoy escort commanders in the north Atlantic to seek out U Boats and attack them, this was before December 7th. Roosevelt used Japan to get into the war. It must be noted that the Roosevelt’s were communists and the press provided cover.

          I must agree with much of your commentary;

          1) We can no longer afford to police the world and at the same time allow an invasion of 15 to 20 million Mexicans.
          2) Our alliances should serve the interest of the American citizen not special interest groups.
          3) Our foreign policy must be conducted in the open, in the light of day, without making pacts with the Devil.
          4) We must seek a high moral standard, that will serve as a beacon to the rest of the world.

    • Jeff

      Larry,

      The fact that Ron Paul, a republican would make such a remark, tells you one thing; he is truly not serious about running for the presidency. For him to sabotage his own political image by making such remarks that are so obviously contrary to the republican political platform, tells you that his appearance on camera is little more than a distraction, but nevertheless a complete sham. But why? Who gave him the orders to get up and say this? Obviously someone whomever he answers to, is basically trying to manipulate the political process. Whomever that is, has already selected and has the power to put whom they want in the office of the presidency. This is why some are of the opinion that the process of elections is a complete sham. They really think everybody is stupid. Unfortunately, far too many are.

    • phil

      You dumbed down people. You need to look at world news and not the big brother media like Fox, Cbs,Cnn,Msnbc,…etc .The American government has done nothing but take our rights in the name of 911…. We are no safer but less free. You think because you are American that makes you superior. Well the rest of the world don’t see it that way. They see a big history of America forcing there will on other countries. If you think the world government puppets such as Rick Perry( Al Gores campaign adviser, and supports carbon taxes scam) Or maybe Newt who supports The Obama Care Scam. Or any one running for president who is backed by the the world banking cartels then you need to study history. Iran might make some threats but they have not acted on there threats. Iran is surrounded by countries that have nukes so of course they want a nuke. America would not be the big mighty nation with out its nuclear arsenal. America cant easily, at there will invade other countries if that country has nuclear weapons. So of course all other countries want a nuclear bomb. Pakistan is a nuclear power and the American government just gave them another $500,000,000,000 billion While at the same time Pakistan is wanting all US personnel out of there country. It might be hard for Americans to believe, but America Is one nation in a world of many nations, We have no right to force our way into other countries for the world bankers gain. Ron Paul is not perfect but he is better than the World Banker backed Perry or Gingrich And if Ron Paul was President you can be certain Billions of dollars will stop being sent to Pakistan and the Palestinians. And yes the Obamas administration has sent hundreds of millions of dollars to the Palestinians for aid. Look it up before you claim I’m full of crap… Every one should study the governments own documents and the constitution. Wake up ! Drudgereport .com will tell you what big brother corporate media will not.

    • stealthy1

      He lost any feeling of support I had for him when he made that assinine statement.

      • texasjayhawker

        Then you are completely ignorant of the real machinations going on !!

    • Essex

      I was disturbed at first by what Dr. Paul said, but I do believe he is right about one thing in this arena. WE are BROKE and CANNOT afford to fight another war, or be the worlds policeman anymore. He WOULD support our allies the Israeli’s though, and they will take care of Iran when the time comes. I think backing the Israeli’s is the play to make in our position. I also worry that none of the other candidates will not get us out of these wars asap and bring home ALL our troops worldwide. We have Aircraft Carriers, fleets, and ICBMs to nail targets around the world when they act out against us and our allies, we don’t need bases and 100k troops around the planet, and can’t afford it anymore. Dr Paul is mostly right on this area, and 100% right in other areas that the other candidates are getting it way wrong… I understand your concern, but trust our allies to protect themselves, and help them do it… Don’t fight other peoples wars for them, and if /when they/we get attacked again, fight back like there is no tomorrow until the enemy is dead dead dead… then pack up and come home. We cannot waste money anywhere anymore. Dr Paul is the only one that would shrink the gov’t enough to make the difference to save this country. Regards…

    • Born American Cowgirl

      I am not sure if you are aware that Hillary Clinton has also signed an agreement to allow Iran to have nuclear weapons along with the UN. We should be more worried what is going on in this country then the rest of the world. The UN is trying to take our rights away in the name of peace. As long as there is man there will be war! As for Rick Perry he has signed in to law bills that are Muslim friendly. It is not for people to come here and change our laws. Could you see it if we went to their home land and told them they were discrimination against us. They would stone us. We truly need to worry about the corruption in this country and stop trying to be everything to everyone. Take care of our own first!

    • brian

      lol dude. you need a beer. you’re one of those people that believes whatever they see on tv….and, why would you tell people to pray to god? that’s just absurd.

  • hass

    “Iran is not in breach of international law. There is no evidence that the country is building nuclear weapons” – Five former EU ambassadors to Iran.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jun/09/iran-nuclear-power-un-threat-peace

    Multiple polls by US organizations found that the people of Iran did in fact vote for Ahmadinejad, and there was no election fraud.

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/652.php

    • John

      Anyone who believes this is BLIND, STUPID, and DUMB.

      • RICH

        John Your Showing Your Ignorance In regards To the Middle East. Why In Hell Do You think America Is Hated By People In The Middle East”? I’ll Give you a Hint””’ ‘ISRAEL’. Trillions Of Americas Christian Dollars Have supported This ROGUE Nation Since Its Inception In 1948. Yet They Spy On America And Sold Top Secret Information On Americas Navy to the “OLD” USSR. (JONATHAN POLLARD) THE MOSSAD And The ISRAEL GOVT KNEW OF THIS SPYING ON AMERICA.

        • http://conservativebyte.com Donald Johnston

          Rich:

          Don’t talk about things you know nothing about. Israel is the only democratic presence in the Middle East. Every country has its spies. The USA spies on everyone, including Israel, but you don’t see anything wrong with that. I am a Christian that supports Israel. Christianity has been too anti-Semitic for too long. Or, are you a person who believes in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

          • texasjayhawker

            Hey ingnoramius, to believe in the “Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion” you have to be one of them. I donot, nor am I one of there “goyin” (animal). I am a Christan and I believe in Jesus Christ, his message & his Resurrection. You need to read Rev. Chapter 2 & Chapter 3 (2-9 & 3-9), as well as John Chaper 8. How about the Khanzars, the Ashkenazis. Follow your judist goat to the slaughter house at your own peril.

          • SamFox

            Protocols has been debunked. But I do believe there is a plan to take over the world. Read Psalm 2.

            Then read where satan said he would ascend his throne higher than the Almighty’s.

            First move to control the world was in Genesis 3. Been a bit down hill ever since, till Messiah was raised from death.

            Now we know where the plan for world dominance was hatched.

            SamFox

        • judbudy

          Rich, maybe because they say so all the time. Hass, it’s apparent you are getting your history from Obama’s fabrications.

          • John Galt

            The jews support and have overwhelmingly voted for Obama and socialist candidates in general, ….. why?

        • John Galt

          FACT: The first government to recognize the State of Israel was the USSR under the leadership of J. Stalin!

      • http://yahoo.com tod

        You shouldn’t talk to yourself that way John.

    • American Patriot

      I agree with you. The troublemaker is Israhell. Always has been and always will be. Look at what they are doing to this once great country just by controlling Obuma, the House and the Senate.
      Not much left for our grand kids to look forward too.

      • Are You Serious

        Fuck you!!!!

        • anders ekman

          The “F U’ comment is a typical leftist response when faced with the truth….

          • Rio Sam

            DITTO THAT

          • old cowboy

            Where are you folks getting your information about who controls Obama. About Iran being docile? About Israel being the bully? When did EU ambassadors become investigators? Voting for a President even in a legit election does not make the leader sane (look who the citizens of America elected)! Stop feeding at the pig trough of biases and start reading and reasoning for yourself folks.

          • Francesca

            Truth? What truth?

          • Are You Serious

            KMA you fool!!! Left wing this you Asshole!!!

          • John Galt

            G. Soros is jewish, think about it!

        • Bob

          Such intelligence! Who can argue with YOU?
          Ron Paul has lost me for good with his foolish attitude toward Iran and its nuke mania.

          • texasjayhawker

            Are you for real? What about North Korea, the Soviet Union ( yes, the communists are still there ) oh yes, the Red Chinese Communists, to name a few. We are bleeding our sons & daughters, our treasury, our very existance as a nation for what reason ? I guess you are saying Iran is going to bomb us (USA). Dr. Ron Paul is outside the box. All we as a nation have had for over a hunred years, comes from within the box. Look where this has got us! Sheep, wake-up. I know you was taught in the government school “what to think” & not how to think. But for your future, your childrens & that of your grand-childrens, not to mention everyone elses, as well, Please WAKE-UP!!!! In the name of JESUS, thank you.

          • http://conservativebyte.com Donald Johnston

            Bob:

            I agree. In the case of the USA and the USSR during the Cold War, the reality of assured mutual destruction kept the two countries from launching nukes. However, Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollahs do not value human life. They are even willing to see millions of their people die if it means the destruction of Israel and perhaps part of the USA. Ron Paul does not know radical Islam’s goals in the global arena.

          • SamFox

            Bob. Nothing foolish about it. What will any of the other candidates do? Start another war we can’t afford? Get more innocents killed with bombs &/or sanctions? Continue to inspire the Islamists to attack US? Ever heard of blow back?

            Go to YouTube & look up Did Blowback Cause 9-11. Get a real education. Thanks.

            Ron, as usual, is right on!! Ron is wise & practical, not foolish. The only foolish ones are those who keep throwing Ron Paul out with the ‘bath water’.

            SamFox

            SamFox

      • Law

        Patriot, you should be neutered to make sure you have no grandkids who are as stupid as you.

      • http://conservativebyte.com Donald Johnston

        American Patriot:

        You and Rich need a little intervention from Yeshua (Jesus), the Jewish Messiah, who is coming not for America but for Israel. Any person or country that curses Israel will be cursed. The U.S. government nor any of its citizens who curse Israel will be exempt. By the way, most Americans support Israel. It’s just the White House and some nut cases that will allow Israel to get thrown under the bus at the hands of terrorists like Hamas and Fatah, who have vowed to destroy the Jewish community.

        If you and Rich are in that group, heaven help you when you face God on Judgment Day. And don’t say that I didn’t warn you.

        • Vince

          The Messiah (if the New Testament is to be believed) is coming for all of those who are born again. He will not show favoritism towards corrupt politicians or wag the dog dark ops agencies.

        • SamFox

          Actually Donald, Yeshua is coming for His Called Out ones, His Church. If any one in Israel is in Messiah, they will be with Jesus.

          I left some links above that deal with this you need to prayerfully consider.

          Thanks.

          SamFox

      • judbudy

        If Israel is controlling Obama, why does he treat them like something he wiped from the bottom of his shoe & kiss the behinds & bow down to all the muslims? You are either a liberal nut or a white supremacist type nut. Israel is the only real friend we have. I am also curious how you will react on Judgement day, as the Lord reminds you of your sin of cursing his people. Actually, I know. You will be just like the rest of us as we answer for our sins, we will bow down & listen.

      • stealthy1

        Hope you like heat buddy.

    • Luis R Vazquez

      Hitler was elected too. and so were Hugo Chavez, and Benito Mussolini and Heideky Tojo before him.

    • Larry

      Hass, looks like you are being brainwashed by the EU ambassadors, Iran, and all the other progressive liberals in this country that have been lying and deceiving the American people for many years about what the real truth is about who our real enemies are.

      • SamFox

        Our worst enemies are in the WH & many in Congress. That’s where the true threat to the US lies. This ME stuff is a major distraction, a ploy to keep ya focused on the wrong issue. Not that we shouldn’t keep a watch on the ME, but we need to watch our own govt most of all.

        Our debt & unfunded liabilities are the worst threat the USA has EVER FACED! If not checked, overspending & ponzi borrowing to cover the shortfall will be what collapsed us by the ‘progressive’ movement as they use the Cloward & Pivon plan to Collapse The [US] System.

        That’s why we need proven for over 30 years PRO-Constitution Ron Paul. Our Founders laid out for us what they thought our foreign policy should be. Ron Paul wisely agrees with them.

        SamFox

  • HOG, Columbus

    I swear as God as my witness, I’ve been yelling from the rooftops against ronpaul, as I did with hussein. Please do not put another, how should…..carter number 2 in office. Hussein is not number 2. In order to be that he would have to meet the standards for even being a citizen, and not be trying to kill our Country. paul is carter 2. –HOG

    • Mike Hunt

      Sheep

      • HOG, Columbus

        hussein is flat out an muzzie brohood card carrying member. Ballot box or the other one. paul is an absolute moron. We can’t have this shit again. Period. -HOG

    • Rio Sam

      And I was under the impression PIGS (HOG) were smart…..obviously NOT!

      • HOG, Columbus

        I’m sure you probably are under the impression that yer commie muzzie coon doesn’t want to kill the useless idiots 1st, to clear the path you created. –HOG

    • SamFox

      Hog. Again another very uniformed post. Paul is the exact opposite of Carter. Please do a better job of research & quit the Homer Simpson useful idiot talking points.

      Thanks.

      SamFox

  • Rene

    Ron Paul does not think Iran should have nuclear weapons. What he believes is that the US does not have the right to prevent Iran (or any other country) from getting/having them. There are many countries that have nukes and have not used them. And I agree with Vince – if Iran did use them, surely they know the consequences.

    • Larry

      …radical Islamic fundamentalism has its roots in Iran….and their religion dictates destruction to anyone who does not believe in their faith and that includes Christians, or any religion not of their beliefs…..so yes…Iran would use nukes even knowing the consequences….it would not be personal to him…it would be his religious motivations….

      • SamFox

        Larry, I thought they had their roots in Islam & the Q’ran. [sp]

        They can move the ‘roots’ you are thinking of from one country to another.

        Just a thought.

        SamFox

    • old cowboy

      It’s hard for me to understand after listening to Paul’s comments about nukes for Iran how you could say that he thinks that Iran should NOT have nukes. Can you enlighten me?

    • Luis R Vazquez

      Rene: Have you ever heard of PREVENTIVE MEDICINE?
      To impede Iran from developing a nuclear arsenal is like getting a colonoscophy to prevent cancer.
      Ron Paul is a Libertarian incrustated in the Republican Party and Libertarians are more like Anarchists.
      They better get rid of him ASAP to save the Tea Party movement

  • George S

    ron paul loves Dopers, Illegals and now Nukes.
    Wake up voters.
    George Snow.

    • 9th ID

      That’s why Liberals and Libertarians share the first 5 letters of their labels. Both are prone to the cult of personality, amorality, and isolationism. The Paulbots I know are so called “conservatives” who love dope and money above everything. They hate the military too. Sad…

      • Willis

        Its not our job to coddle every country in the world. Obama is a coddler; Paul is a non-coddler.

        Get the US out of these trillion dollar wars; let the middle east take care of itself.

        Got a problem with Iran? We should declare war and knock them out. All other options are one world socialism…
        And we are supposed to be conservative.

        You guys sound like progressives.

    • mike patton

      hey George, does “S” stand for Soros? Because Ron Paul is the only hope our country has from preventing global elites like you from completely taking over and enslaving our country………..We have finally “woken up”………..and the man we will choose to lead us from the cliff to destruction is Ron Paul…..

    • Rio Sam

      @George You’re pathetic….and STUPID

    • SamFox

      George, you have the right idea, but a negative definition.

      Ron loves people. That is why he wants to see freedom & liberty across the board. It’s not ‘dopers’, it’s the people themselves he wants to set free from illegal govt intervention into their lives.

      You need to check this out:

      http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/

      It’s not nukes he loves. It’s the Constitution. The US has no business trying to police the world. Our interventionist foreign policy is not Constitutional. Causes resentment toward US and invites blow back.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqGBBFiowE

      SamFox

  • Peggy

    As long as people support that idea that we are justified and morally superior in using deadly force to control the “intentions” of others, and then talk about how we are “fighting for freedom” we will only show what hypocrites we are. BUt the joke is on us, cause we will destroy ourselves in the process by bankrupting this country both morally and financially. The alternative is to actually live peacefully and only use our defense for actual DEFENSE from actual aggression, instead of being the aggressor.

    • Joseph C Moore, USN Ret

      Peggy, agreed.

      • John

        I think both you and Peggy are nuts. I hate war as much as anyone. But there are times you have to aggressive against these regimes.

        • Vic

          And that is why the US is hated around the world. I’m no fan of Muslims around the world, but why keep antagonising them.

        • Rio Sam

          @John: You would make a good MSM talking head!

        • old cowboy

          What needs to be said to the Muslims and the leaders of the Muslim nations: “We (America) are leaving the Middle East and many other places around the world. We are taking our troops and equipment, that are now in your countries, home to secure our borders and protect our citizens at home. We will sail the international oceans at will, we will continue to have the most awesome military in the world, and if there is a threat to that roaming military, we will shoot before being shot. We will not interfere in your countries any longer. We will not prop up or try to take down any regime or government nor will we aid any of you to do so. We will not be sending any more money to you. We will not be protecting you from one another so have at it. BUT, if any country or their countrymen attack the USA (via your military or terrorists from your country), we will obliterate your part of the planet. If we cannot decide exactly which country did the deed, we will narrow it down as best we can and demolish all the countries we believe to be involved (in any event it will be only a matter of days and not months or years). After we are finished we will withdraw from the rubble again (except for the roaming seafaring military) and wait for sanity to install itself in the remaining countries. If insanity continues to prevail in your countries and you continue to be physically aggressive toward the USA, then you will eventually, but sooner rather than later, become extinct. Have a nice day!” This proclamation will be posted on the world wide web and broadcast through every know avenue of communications possible for 30 days, that way there will be no doubt as to our intentions and everyone will be informed. SO, let’s hear the politicians explain why this won’t work. Why we can’t stop being ‘involved’ in everyone’s problems. Why we have to slowly ‘bleed’ ourselves to death so that the rest of the world can hate us.

          • judbudy

            Ron Paul is right about some issues but dead wrong on this & it’s too importent to ignore. I believe that we should eliminate any eminent threats & retaliate any attacks on US people or land, including bases elsewhere. Going into a country & interfering with the government otherwise is wrong. If the people do not stand up & fight for themselves they will not keep it anyway. I do not believe in going to another country to do away with a person or group that has attacked us & then turning around & rebuilding it when we are finished. Why should we rebuild so they can come at us again sooner. But not seeing a threat & trying to prevent it is as crazy as they are. If you think they will just let us alone if we leave & stay here is just as crazy, they are already here. They intend to take over the world & rid it of ALL Jews & Christians, infidels as they call us. Hamas is terrorizing Mexico & US citizens close to the border & are all over the US, changing laws to Shariah. They are moving in as Obama distracts us with his garble & takeover tactics. Open your eyes, the Ground Zero mosque, huge mosques in areas that have only a few muslims, now you tell me more of your garbage. Some day soon, this will slap you right between the eys.

          • Certified American

            This is the only comment that makes sense about foreign policy in the Middle East. It has long been my attitude that if they mess with us….we go in and cause some damage…then go home! Leave THEM to cleanup their own country. No nation-building, let those oil-rich countries take care of themselves. Tell them, if they try it again, we will be back!

            If Middle East tribes want to kill each other, that is their fight. One tribe is just like the other because they are all muslims. And, they do what muslims have done for eons!
            It is not talked about, but we are there to protect our oil interests. We are afraid we will be cut off if the wrong people get control. We are vulnerable and should never have gotten ourselves in this position. It was American money and American companies that drilled those oil wells, and gave them to the rag heads. We should have drilled those wells in our own country and kept all that money in our own economy…..instead of making the ME rich beyond compare. And, what do we get for our trouble…. terrorists trying to kill Americans.

            If this government would let us become independent, and drill for our own oil, there would be nothing we need from the Middle East! There would be no reason to be in three wars, wasting our blood and treasure!

    • John

      So we should have allowed Saddam to stay in power despite the fact he wanted to wipe Israel off the map and attack us. That kind of thinking is gets you in trouble to begin with. Being reactive instead of proactive.

      • American Patriot

        John, that was all jew propaganda about Saddam having WMDs. That’s why they pulled off 9-11, to get us in Iraq. No WMDs were ever found though. Then they concocted other lies as to why. The Mossad motto is “By Deception, Thou Shalt Make War” and it works very good for them.

        • Rio Sam

          Listen to American Patriot. He is so right on the money..You people need to wake-up do your research and hopefully become wiser

        • Are You Serious

          You’re a liberal plant. Get outta here AH !!!!!

        • Law

          What happened in your life to make you such a bigot?

        • judbudy

          There were WMDs, they moved them before we got there. You are the one who mindlessly listens, try doing some research on your own instead of believing everything the media puts out.

      • Certified American

        Why would we need to be proactive in the Middle East. That doesn’t make sense. Especially, if we had our own oil wells…

        All the muslim countries in the Middle Easts want to attack Israel and the U.S. So, what is new… Should we be proactive in all of them…I think not! What good did we get out of removing Saddam? Did it improve your life any? Are we safer now than we were then or have we lost a lot of our own liberty? Is terrorism less a threat than it was then…I think not! Show me one good thing that has come out of being involved in these ME wars….. it has gotten out of control.

        I did support getting Saddam at the time, but we should have left, as soon as he was captured…. We needed infra-structure in America….not in Iran. They can use their own oil money, instead of using American taxpayer money and using our soldiers as laborers! I remember how the cost of building materials went out-of-site, because it was all being shipped out of country! Americans paid triple the cost! They paid for the war, they paid to rebuild, and they paid higher prices at home for goods!

        • Certified American

          That is supposed to be Iraq.

    • Mel Shofner

      A laudable position morally speaking, but a very risky proposition in the nuclear age. I don’t think I would be willing to sacrifice a city full of people or a Navy battle group to nuclear destruction, in order to be sure of a potential adversary’s evil intent before taking defensive countermeasures-be they political, economic, or military in nature.

    • RICH

      Well Said Peggy”"”"!

    • greenteeth

      We missed super power rating when we quit using it. if we would have droped a few more we would not be in the mess we are today.

    • Luis R Vazquez

      Peggy there is a military axiom that says that the best defense is the attack.
      Didn’t the attack on the Twin Towers and Pearl Harbor taught you anything?
      The enemy is the one who wants you to stay dormant, so he could work without worries.
      But by the time you wake up it already cost you dearly

  • YeahRIGHT

    I thought Paul had some good ideas, but that was in a general sense, because I had never really paid that much attention to him. He’s right about us wasting a lot of money/resources/lives on a lot of stupid foreign “initiatives” – but that said, when a maniac that “ah-am-a-dick-head-wif-a-job” vows to wipe israel, our best friend/ally, off the map, it doesn’t take a foreign affairs genius to say “hey, wait a minute, Dickjob or whatever your name is! You don’t get to have nukes with that dumbass attitude!” Personally, I think we should “donate” a detonator to that lunatic – that is – when he has developed the nuke, detonate it for him in his own country! problem solved.

    • Vic

      Israel your best friend ? Really ?

  • KnowTheTruthToday

    Ron Paul is a smart man, but his thinking is completely messed up.

    • 9th ID

      Kinda like that Harvard usurper in the W.H…

    • Rio Sam

      Well Know the truth today, I believe it is your thinking that is completely messed up….if you were actually educated on the context of the US Constitution you might have a different opinion, although, a persons mindset is usually fixed by the age of 13 or so…..but obviously you were raised by idiots, so you are, with all probability, a lost cause!

    • judbudy

      I am constantly amazed at how the constitution was written so long ago & still is totally applicable now. Ron Paul is an avid constitutionalist, for which I applaud & agree with BUT there are certain things that need to be taken into consideration, that he hasn’t. Most important being that when our Founding Fathers wrote the constitution, there were no satellites or planes & rockets that could travel around the world. Defending our land was not as complicated.

  • Americacan

    I thought RP had some good ideas and supported him until now. Ahmadnutjob is a dictator and should not be allowed those kind of toys to play with. Then, again, we’re all most at that point with our dictator.

  • Linda

    Iran is not a threat to the USA. We are brainwashed to think that they are by the rich elites who want to rule the world, and are systematically removing heads of state that they don’t own. Remember the non-existent weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein supposedly had? We are told these things so that we will go along with their wars. They did not own Saddam hussein, so they had to get rid of him in order to set up their puppet government in Iraq.Who would volunteer to join the armed forces if they knew that they were pawns of the rich elite New World Order? We are told that Ahmadinejad spouted out these threats, but did he really? I have seen pictures of him meeting with Jews. And Israel has their own nuclear weapons. They can take care of themselves.Israel has a history of spying on the United States.Why are we putting Americans in danger, with thousands of our troops killed in these wars? The government is lying to us. If they wanted to protect our country, they would secure the borders, but they don’t. Duh! Instead, they spend millions of dollars frisking old ladies in airports, using cancer-causing radiation on millions of innocent Americans, and allowing millions of illegal aliens cross our borders. We are being scammed and raped on a large scale, the largest in history. Ron Paul is probably not the only candidate who knows these things, but he’s the only one who cares. The rest of them are out for themselves at the very least, and are part of the problem. America needs to wake up and stop drinking the koolaid.

    • John

      First of all to say Iran is no threat to us, Lina shows your complete ignorant liberal insanity. Their president has stated numerous times he wants to destroy us and Israel. Then to say the WMDs by Saddam were not existent. Based on whose information? Yours. How in the hell do you know he didn’t have any because they were not there at the time he went in. So that means Saddam never had them. Boy how very naiave you and the stupid liberals in this world are. You better wake up late and see the world for what is it. Very dangerous with these dictators in power. So you are giving the benefit a doubt to the late Saddam over your own president given Saddam’s history. You are pathetic as any liberal is.

      • Mel Shofner

        Although it has been kept off the MSM airwaves pretty much completely, there seems to be some evidence to support your appropriate skepticism of the popular consensus that Saddam had no WMDs. There are satellite photos and other intelligence that seem to show massive truck convoys, originating at known and suspected WMD-related sites in Iraq, mere days before the launch of Shock and Awe, and heading into both Russia and Syria. Adding to my suspicions is the fact that the destination sites in Syria are reported to be heavily guarded to this day, and off limits to all but authorized personnel, where sizable quantities of material appear to have been buried in reinforced vaults. It’s less well known what became of the Russia-bound cargo.

        • judbudy

          Thank you, Mel. The media refuses to acknowledge that.

    • American Patriot

      @Linda,
      You are 100% correct. I couldn’t have said it better. Go up a few posts and see my comment.
      I wrote in and voted for Ron Paul in 08 and will again in 12. I would rather give my vote to a winner that was never given a chance then a loser picked by the jews that they can control!

      • Are You Serious

        Sure you did you liberal plant!!!

      • Rio Sam

        @ RIGHT ON AMERICAN PATRIOT!

      • Larry

        Your hatred for Jews is becoming more obvious every time you make comments on this forum. Jesus Christ was a Jew. Do you hate Him as well?

        • Vince

          I dislike zionists, not Jews.

        • Vic

          Larry said- Your hatred for Jews is becoming more obvious every time you make comments on this forum. Jesus Christ was a Jew. Do you hate Him as well?

          How do you figure Jesus was a Jew?

          John 7:1
          1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him. (KJV)

      • Certified American

        Ron Paul has a big problem in that he attracts so many “Whackos!”

    • RICH

      LINDA……………..YOUR ONE SMART LADY”! YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF’! May I Suggest To You…..Go To The USS LIBERTY Site. Look What These Men Said About The Attack On their Ship By The Israel Navy And Air Force. The Information Is there….Yet………….so many Americans Are Naive and Ignorant Of Israel Spying And It’s Mossad Agents in America’!

      • judbudy

        Britain has done the same thing & we have as well. Israel is tiny & surrounded & must be even more diligent than anyone. I don’t believe that report anymore than the one about Israel attacking the floatilla. I saw a video of what happened there. First, the people in Gaza are not starving, second that ship was loaded with guns & terrorists. The Palestineans that live in Israel do not want the borders changed because they have a peaceful life where they are.

        • Willis

          You’re scared aren’t you?

          All ya’ll are scared. That’s your problem; you’re scared.

          Look upon Jesus for peace and sanctity; this world is scary, don’t be scared. Use the power of the Holy Spirit to comfort you. You can’t find comfort in killing and war propaganda.

  • Rosemary Ackerman

    We don’t need another apologist in the Whtehouse – Ron Paul’s ideas are downright dangerous -
    Carter was just pathetic. Paul just totally fropped off my list.

    • John

      Problem is we have too many apologists on this site.

  • Don Stevens

    Until this, I thought I had heard a few good ideas from Ron Paul. But now I see that he’s as dangerous as Obama. …might even get Israel and U.S. destroyed quicker.

    • 9th ID

      As much as I hate to say it, Paul is even more dangerous than Obama. Stacked CPAC and Iowa Straw Polls don’t fool Americans with a brain to the dangers of Ron Paul and his rabid worshippers. Mainly fiscally conservative dope heads…

  • Linda

    Israel isn’t what people think it is. You are mistaken if you think that those people are descendents of Israel (Jacob). I know some of those Jews personally, and they despise Americans/Christians. They are of Turkish descent, and “Jews who are not Jews, but are of the synagogue of Satan” ( Revelation 2:9, 3:9). They “milk the Gentiles”- many of them are living off of welfare and medicaid, while making large sums of money in their businesses, through fraudulent means. True Israel is by and large hidden within other nations. So, it is a sham for us to be calling them our best friends and allies. We may be good for them, but they are not good for us in any sense of the word. Many of these people also follow the Jewish Cabala- which is equivalent to witchcraft and devil worship. If you think I’m crazy, try investigating it, and you will see that I am telling you the truth.

    • Mel Shofner

      So you don’t think that Israel as we know it, represents the Jews being gathered back together from all the places they were scattered to over the years? That’s an interesting view that deserves some discussion and research! That might just be a game-changing revelation that would affect how a lot of people look at where we are now in relation to the end times; I admit, I’ve always pretty much taken it for granted that the current incarnation of Israel was the chosen people being gathered together again as prophesied. I will definitely be revisiting some subjects, to check that out. And Cabala, isn’t that the same somewhat trendy discipline that Madonna and some others have taken to dabbling in? (I think I have also seen it spelled Kaballah, or something similar.)

      • Vic

        Mel,
        Most people who believe that those people in Israel are God,s chosen do so because someone else told them said so. The proof of who true Israel is, is in the Bible if only people would search it out.
        If you really want to find the truth, look up Col. Gordon ” Jack ” Mohr . His writings are all backed up by the Bible. We can often read the Bible and don’t really understand what we have read. Sometimes we need some teaching from someone to whom these things have been revealed.

    • Cathy

      Linda, you are 100% correct. I’ve done the research- it gets worse- AIPCA has a lot of control over congress.
      Ron Paul is correct about Iran- we put the Shah (a dictator) in power until ’79- when the Iranians got there country back. A news commentator said that “Carter lost Iran”- gee, didn’t know we owned Iran. But now “they” want to get control over Iran again. And he did not say”wipe Israel off the map” he was misquoted(probably on purpose) again.
      William Casey, CIA director in 1981 said this: “We’ll know if our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

    • http://RonPaul Barney

      1 Peter 2:9 says only believers in Christ are a holy nation. The book of Galations verify this. Perhaps God will use Iran to finish the work He started in the great tribulation that took place in 70 A.D.

    • John

      This coming from a woman who says Iran is no threat to us and Saddam never had avy weapons. Linda, go preach your crap to the far left networks. Anyone with and sense would never take your comments seriously

    • American Patriot

      @Linda
      Read John 8:44 and see what Jesus told them they are. I stand with Jesus, not the liars that claim to be jews,

      • Vic

        I would like to say that rather than just read John 8:44, read the whole chapter which which gives a better understanding of that one verse alone.

      • texasjayhawker

        Amen brother in CHRIST, stand tall and prepare yourself for the tribulation that comes.

    • Rio Sam

      @Linda…If only more people had your intellect and insight….if only..

    • Barney

      1 Peter 2:9 says believers in Christ are a holy nation. National Israel was never God’s chosen people, only believing people were.

    • Dale on the left coast

      Sounds like the “British-Isreal” movement . . . still looking for the lost tribes. So wrong, so nuts!!!
      Daniel told of the rise of the State of Israel in the last days . . . we are living in those days. Daniel told of the World turning on Israel . . . it’s happening NOW!!! Next the armies will be gathering in the great valley. And for what happens next . . . read Zechariah chapter 12 . . . note – there is a State of Israel, with Jews living in it . . . who finally recognize the “One” . . . wake up folks!!!

    • judbudy

      Linda, you are probably right but there are some things that you are omitting. Some of the so called Jews & Christians here are the same. Jewish is a race & a religion, many do practice the Jewish religion & some here & in Israel that are Messianic Jews. They believe in Christ as the Messiah. There are many Jewish that are not religious at all. Everyone thinks Americans are Christian. Being a Christian is a decision to turn your life over to Christ, not a race. There are Christians in Israel & many Jews that don’t believe in God at all, here & there. There are also many devout Jews who live by their religion. As said above, Jesus was a Jew. It also states in the Bible that many Jews will come accept Christ in the last days.

      • texasjayhawker

        I begto differ friend, JESUS never said he, himself was a jew. Pilot asked him if he was king of the jews. He answered: If you say I am. In the Holy Bible he is called a Nazarene. Also, no where is it said the the jew is Gods choosen people. No sir, it says the ISRAELITE is GODS choosen people. Please, donot take my word, go study. Thank You.

    • Vic

      Absolutely right. Christians have been duped by gentiles !

      • Vic

        Vic says:
        August 14, 2011 at 9:10 pm

        Absolutely right. Christians have been duped by gentiles.

        This was supposed to be in responce to Linda’s post. August 13th.

  • Mike Hunt

    you’re a sheep

    • John

      Betteryey, Linda is a bear during the winter seasons. She hibernates and doesn’t know what the hell is going on.

      • Vince

        Look in the mirror, Johnny boy. Nothing is as it seems.

    • Vic

      Yes, some of us are sheep.
      John 10: 26-28
      26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
      27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
      28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

  • Lawrence Rayburn

    So, with Ron Paul shooting himself in the foot with the Iranian nuke position, looks to me like
    Rick Perry is going to the forefront of the GOP fairly soon.

    So, put another Texan in the White House and hope he has the gumption to get us out of foreign
    entanglements, stimulate the domestic oil and gas industry to to hire another 9.2 Million Americans and stimulate domestic manufacturing of everything…adding more manufacturing jobs here in America. Slap a 100 percent tax on imports.

    All the big corporations that have moved their HQs to Dubai and other foreign nations….can stay there, but can’t come back and do business in the USA. And semiconductor companies that think they MUST ship wafers to Malaysia, Korea, Taiwan, or Japan for packaging….can move their operations entirely to those locations….and new semiconductor start up companies can take their place in the US so long as they do ALL their manufacturing here.

    100 percent import tax on electronics and appliances…..a tax rebate on electronics and appliances manufactured in the US.

    Build 50 more oil and gas refineries in the US in the first two years of a new Presidency.
    Those clothes manufacturers who went to the Carribean, Africa, China, etc….stay there. New
    domestic manufacturers will take their place in the USA with Made in the USA clothing,
    shoes, etc staffed with Americans.

    We CAN turn this around and put USA number 1 again….but it won’t come easily. Perry might be the man to do it.

    ol’ Lawrence

    • Cathy

      Rick Perry is NOT the man we want in the WH- he is endorsed by the Bilderberg group- same as Obama- so we will just get more of the same-WAKE THE HELL UP!!

      • John

        You wake the hell up. Perry can’t be any worse than Obama. Nobody can.

        • Mel Shofner

          Although I think you’re right about the guy and have been working overtime to get him removed from office, either through impeachment, arrest, electoral defeat or whatever it takes, the Bilderberg connection with Perry seems to be solid. We want to be very careful that zero’s over-the-top, criminal antics aren’t used to make us so desperate for someone else that we let ourselves be duped into settling for whoever these vermin put out there to replace him with.

        • Vince

          Cathy has it right, John. You have no concept of the state of Israel’s practice of deception nor are you aware of the New World Order control freaks who don’t give one iota about patriotic ideals like national sovereignty.

      • Rio Sam

        Right on Cathy…say it again…..WAKE THE HELL UP!

    • HOG, Columbus

      Heh heh:) Hell yea. Another American with my same thoughts. In a nutshell-if they abandoned over some bucks, f’d off our Papers and People, stay abandoned. We’ll be fine. -HOG

  • Lawrence Rayburn

    So, with Ron Paul shooting himself in the foot with the Iranian nuke position, looks to me like
    Rick Perry is going to the forefront of the GOP fairly soon.

    So, put another Texan in the White House and hope he has the gumption to get us out of foreign
    entanglements, stimulate the domestic oil and gas industry to to hire another 9.2 Million Americans and stimulate domestic manufacturing of everything…adding more manufacturing jobs here in America. Slap a 100 percent tax on imports.

    All the big corporations that have moved their HQs to Dubai and other foreign nations….can stay there, but can’t come back and do business in the USA. And semiconductor companies that think they MUST ship wafers to Malaysia, Korea, Taiwan, or Japan for packaging….can move their operations entirely to those locations….and new semiconductor start up companies can take their place in the US so long as they do ALL their manufacturing here.

    100 percent import tax on electronics and appliances…..a tax rebate on electronics and appliances manufactured in the US.

    Build 50 more oil and gas refineries in the US in the first two years of a new Presidency.
    Those clothes manufacturers who went to the Carribean, Africa, China, etc….stay there. New
    domestic manufacturers will take their place in the USA with Made in the USA clothing,
    shoes, etc staffed with Americans.

    We CAN turn this around and put USA number 1 again….but it won’t come easily. Perry might be the man to do it.

    ol’ Lawrence

  • John G.

    I’ve been hearing comments like that for years from Ron Paul. That’s exactly why I’ll never vote for the looney bastard. He’s been making similar stupid comments like that from the time he was elected to the Texas legislature. Talk about having a screw loose, he’s lost most of his along the way.

  • Gene

    Ron, go home and get some more bricks, because you’re a few short of a load!

  • Randy Kyle

    Now, to the high intellectual who told me after my last “Paul” comment that I should “think-for-myself” with regard to this amoral dwarf….statements like THIS are the reason I wouldn’t trust him to drive a mop over my bathroom floor! He know NOTHING about islam, Ahmadinijad, the “12th Imam” or anything pertinent to WHY we should stop the mini Hitler from obtaining SLINGSHOTS, much less nukes! If it’s possible, he knows even less about THIS nation. He is concerned over our “imperialism”. If we were truly “imperialists” that CESSPOOL to our south and the NOTHING to the north would have long since been the 51st and 52nd states respectively. Ron Paul should be kept around for comic relief, but as a serious candidate he’s not even a good joke.

  • Gene J

    Contrary to your apparent assumptions, Iran is NOT necessarily either the biggest threat to the US, or in their region. We’ve been messing with them for over half a century!
    The question shoul dnot be Iran, good or bad,; the question is what business is it of ours?The answer is, it is none of our business; never has been, never should be.But some people cannot accept that we have to meddle. Put an end to our involvement in all these wars, or show me the mandate in The US Constitution to be the boss of the world.
    Our enemy is, and always has been the Banks. Follow the money, and Audit/End the Fed!!Only Paul has taken dead aim on the belly of the beast: The Fed. Only The Fed gains from these international gambits.

    • John

      Gene, that comment pretty much shows your complete stupidity. You know nothing about the threat Iran poses to us. Hell yes, it is our business. What the hell is the matter with you damn liberals. Are you that blind to Iran.

      • American Patriot

        @John
        I am as conservative as one can get and I would trust Iran but I will never trust a jew.
        In my long lifetime I have never been lied to or stolen from by a Muslim.
        Every time I listen to the jew controlled major media I am ljed to. They tell me only what they want, when they want and how they want!
        Every time I borrow money or use a credit card, I am being stolen from by jew controlled banks.

        • Law

          Gosh, and I thought Jesus was a Jew. So you can’t trust Jesus?

          • Vic

            Law,
            You probably thought Jesus was a Jew because others told you so. Jesus was not a Jew.

            John 7:1
            1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him. (KJV)

        • Certified American

          Are you saying that muslims never lie!

          If you trust Iran, you are one card short of a full-deck! The muslims take pride in telling lies to infidels. The Koran tells them to lie their butts off, to gain what they want. They have that in common with the radical progressives, “the end justifies the means!”

    • Are You Serious

      The biggest threat to the USA is ourselves. Stay tuned!!! We are toast by 2012.

    • American Patriot

      I agree. Get rid of the parasitic jew “Fed” and issue our own currency. If they have all the gold and silver, so what, they can’t eat it. If they get hungry, instead of giving them 13 BILLION $$ every year give them a few pork chops and bacon.

  • Eugene Dayton Pringle, Jr.

    It pains me to see so many brainwashed people jump on Ron Paul for his coment about Iran and Nukes. Why don’t you stop and think before jumping on the band wagon to defeat Ron Paul. Any 8th grader who knows anything about World Politics – will tell you that if R ma dick head dha wanted a nuke all he needs to do is ask his buddie in Pakistan to give him one. Where were all you real smart people when Pakistan was developing its nuke? There are a lot more nucular countries than we know about. Most of them are not being run by stupid people. We seem to have the edge on that particular strain of public official.
    Ron Paul is spot on with what he said. What we should be doing is becoming energy efficient and keep out military way superior to what else is out there. What sense does it make to buy our oil from our enemy? Let’s stop with the BS about Isreal being our best friend Isreal has used every Congress in this country this country to gain what it wanted. The best thing we can do is leave Isreal alone and let them take care of R ma dick head dha and his islamic friends. If you don’t Islam will be coming to a shopping center near you.

    The problem facing most Americans is that Fascism sounds a lot better then Liberty. A lot of people talk about liberty and have no clue where they are. Get a traffic ticket and tell the judge that you were just traveling to the store to buy bread and that does not require a “license”. Its a true statement but you will pay the Bailiff on the way out. You hipe your “democracy” and don’t even know that our founders dispised the term. America is a Republic but that was lost before Linclon was assasinated….. pay your license tax, your unconstituitonal income tax and keep voting for the next better fascist.

    • Brett

      Well said!!! But sadly far too many Americans refuse to see the truth even when it’s right in front of their eyes! Afterall, true freedom and liberty are way to much work to keep, most are more concerned with what’s happening on American idol. So just continue to elect the same lying scumbags and then complain when they won’t do what you want! That’s insanity and our Republic will come to a pathetic end as a result.

      • Mel Shofner

        Sad to say, you’ve pretty much nailed the bottom line. No matter how hard we work to prevent it, the outcome is already a done deal, as was revealed to John on Patmos. Best to make your decision to follow Jesus, if you haven’t already; by all means, keep spreading the truth, but don’t bet your salvation on anyone listening to it!

    • Vic

      Eugene Dayton Pringle, Jnr.

      Couldn’t have said it better myself !

  • Gene J

    Should have proofread; meant to say, accept that we DON’T have to meddle. And while were at it Get US out of the UN!

    • Joseph C Moore, USN Ret

      Yes.

    • Cathy

      Amen

    • John

      Yes we do when you have the Iraian president who wants to destroy us and Israel. Yes we have to meddle.

      • Brett

        How exactly is Iran going to be able to destroy America??? Don’t you think that if Iran was truly intent upon destroying America or even Israel for that matter they would have already bought the capabilties to do so from some other rougue nation? Wake up folks! If our own government would leave Israel to do what Israle wants, Iran would cease to be the problem so many misguided, brainwashed American’s think it is! Furthermore, if we would stop trying to social engineer the whole world, many of these problems wouldn’t have even began in the first place!

        • Francesca

          With missiles whit a nukes inside that can reach the U.S.!

        • Mel Shofner

          They don’t have to have a Russia-sized arsenal to wreak major havoc; the electromagnetic pulse from a few well-placed airbursts would send entire regions of the US into utter chaos for a time, and result in many, many casualties. Members of Congress have been made well aware of this threat but continue to ignore it. Some of the military and federal equipment and facilities are hardened against EMP, but very few if any commercial or private assets are protected, leaving most of the power grid, phones, TV/satellite/radio, computers, medical telemetry equipment, GPS, etc. and even most modern cars, trucks and aircraft vulnerable to major disruption, and there aren’t very many spare parts stockpiled to start the repairs with…300-ton transformers are expensive and take a while to build, transport and install…

        • Vic

          It used to be the Russians that were bad, now it is Iran. The Russians never attacked USA and neither will Iran.

  • wyllo sanders

    THIS GOVERNMENT HAS LIED ABOUT EVERY WAR,,WE HAVE BEEN IN …TO KILL US AND THEM.TO CONTROL THE WORLD .ENGLAND AND ISRAEL USE OUR MILITARY TO OWN ALL THE LAND AND THE SUPER RICH GETS RICHER THEY THINK OF YOU AS SLAVES…READ [THE EMPIRE OF THE CITY] E.C.KNUTH,,,,WHO IN THE HELL IS AMERICA TO SAY ANY COUNTRY CANT DEFEND THEM SELVES
    MAYBE RON PAUL KNOWS MORE THAN YOU
    AND DONT CALL ME A DEMOCRAT OR A NAZI ,,,BEEN A REPUBLICAN ALL MY LIFE AND NOT PROUD OF IT RON PAUL 2012

    • John

      Get off the back of the rich get richer crap moron. You liberals make me sick. The comments I am hearing from some of these people is so asinine. You people are pathetic.

      • Vince

        Quit judging everyone, John, and broaden your research. Wyllo is referencing the trillionaire types who own the FED (and by extension the world) along with their minions.

    • American Patriot

      @wyllo

      Ron Paul in 2012, RAH RAH RAH

      • Are You Serious

        Now that is funny. He couldn’t win in a one man race. The guy is an idiot!!! You people believe Ovomit will be defeated in 2012. Think again fools. The fix is in!!!!!! This country is headed for revolution !!!! Lock & Load!!!!!!

  • http://Whythishappened&howtopreventit. Jesus Follower

    Paul is a friend of Iran.
    Iran has made threats against the USA & Israel, but Paul is a Jew basher & doesn’t understand a threat of war against the USA/and or it’s ally is serious business.

  • Lawrence Rayburn

    I agree with Gene…..get our ass out of the UN…and kick their asses out of the US. Let them have a building in Rome or in Belgium or anywhere in Europe, but not in the US. We can rent that real estate out for big bucks.

    Yes, and get our troops out of their overseas postings. South Korea can stand or their own or be incorporated with North Korea again. Japan can stand for herself. So can Taiwan and the Phillipines. Totally pull out of the Middle East and Europe. Strengthen Guantanomo, close our border with Mexico militarily and strengthen our military border defenses….Alaska and Maine in conjunction with the Canadian miltary to defend the North American shield…less Mexico. Between the US and Canada, we have more than enough resourses for North America and an educated, willing work force to manufacture all that we need.

    ol’ Lawrence

    • bob

      The government has driven our population into a state of paranoia over nuclear power and who possess it. Iran is surrounded by nations that have nuclear weapons, why wouldn’t they want them as a deterrent for their neighbors. Iran is no threat to the U.S. they don’t have the capability to strike us and probably will not in the future. Iran does not have an air force or a navy to speak of. Who are they going to attack other than their neighbors ? Iran needs nuclear power to supply it’s own country with electrical power, they have oil but, they don’t have a refinery to make it into fuel so they sell off their oil to make money to build nuclear power plants. If we didn’t try to rule the world, we wouldn’t have so many enemies. As Ron Paul says the U.S should mind it’s own business and stay out of other nations wars.

      • Brett

        WELL SAID!!!!

      • Dale on the left coast

        Iran already has missiles that will reach all of Europe, it is rumored that one that will reach the east coast of the US is near completion.
        But maybe losing NY would not be such a big deal . . . lol.
        Paul is an old man . . . a tired old man . . . he would be 80 before he finished his first term.

  • Gene J

    Israel vs. Iran? Israel will romp. The danger in the Middle East is the threat that US influence is now favoring fundamentalist Islamic revolution worldwide under Obama, and netraying Israel. We do BIG business with nations much worse than Iran; China comes to mind; and they have nukes.
    Debt is our enemy, so keep an eye on where, and why our we are forfieting treasure in these wars that will leave us in economic shackles down to our great grandchildren. And we are paying interest on money borrowed from a Fed that never had those trillions to begin with. Paul says, tear that debt up and put the Fed out of business. And he is right.

    • American Patriot

      @Gene J
      The barbaric jew terrorists would win. We have given them the most modern weaponry in the world and what we haven’t given them, they have stolen.

      • Francesca

        Barbaric jew terrorists! Really?

      • Dale on the left coast

        You are a nut . . . wats you last name? Eichman???

  • Lawrence Rayburn

    I agree. Do away with the Fed. (THAT’s the only think Ron Paul ever said that made sense.)

    ol’ Lawrence

  • Don McDaniel

    Calling Ron Paul names does not prove a point. Yes, Iran could be a threat to us — especially if we continue to refuse to deal with him on a diplomatic basis. As for nukes, how much do you trust Russia, China or Pakistan to not use them against us? Iran is a very small player in this nuclear game. The underlying problem is the Israeli – Palestinian problem. So long as the Israelis continue to build on Palestinian lands and treat Palestinians worse than third-class humans, we will continue to have conflict all throughout the Middle East. It is not the Iranians who are the problem, it is our unenlightened foreign policy.

  • Charles Higley

    Since the job of the Federal gov’t is to keep us secure and manage interstate commerce, then Ron Paul fails one of the two things he should be trying to support. Next!

  • milmac

    I think Iran is more of a threat to Israel than to the U.S. While I think the U.S. should stand with Israel, I think we should let Israel deal with the Iranian threat, for it is the Israeli’s that the Iranian leaders want to annihlate. We should supply Israel with all the armament needed for her defense, and if it came to that point, supply troops on the ground if Israel asks.

    • Brett

      How is supplying Israel with armament and troops letting Israel deal with the so called Iranian threat themselves? And by the way, are YOU going to pay for all these armaments and troops? I know I don’t won’t to pay another cent nor sacrifice one more soldier to allow our government to meddle in the affairs of others that we have no business meddling in to begin with!

      • Dale on the left coast

        Brett . . . so how do you feel about Building Moosques in the ME? Would that be a waste of money?

    • Larry

      milmac, it’s time for you to catch up on the news. The sadistic Iranian leader calls America the “Great Satan” and wants to destroy it as much as he wants to destroy Israel.
      He has said this so many times that the only reason I can think of for you not knowing this is because you haven’t been keeping your ears and eyes open to what is going on in this crazy, insane, world we are now living in.

      The Iranian leader wants to annihilate America just as much as he does Israel. And the sad truth is this insane, sadistic leader will not hesitate in a skinny minute to attack our nation even if he knows that his own country would be destroyed as well. We are dealing with insane leaders who have warped minds so severe that intelligent people can’t possibly understand.

  • Gene J

    You above who just don’t get it; Dr Paul’s point is, we have no business meddling or having troops, anywhere outside of our borders! We have no mandate. That’s the point!!
    We have troops in well over one hundred nations. That is not defense, that is provocation. It is one thing to stand guard; quite another to be an imperial power. What would we do if a foreign nation upped and decided they could put troops here? Or tell our leaders what to do?
    We’ll never have to find out if we move our troops to within our boders.
    We, the US, is already the worlds largest armed populace. No one will invade us from without; but, because we are “over there”, they are coming over here to invade us by stealth.
    See, in their mind, they have every right! They hate us because we are an occupying imperial power.
    Get us out of the UN, out of business of war, and back to free trade.
    Secure the borders!
    And End The Fed.
    Dr. Paul is hitting the nail on the head as usual. For those who have eyes to see.

    • bob

      I agree with everything you said.

  • Gil

    We have not won a war since the last one that was actually declared by Congress. I think that was 65 years ago and was called WWII. What has all the wasted foreign entanglements since then cost us in dollars and lives?
    About Iran, do you really think Israel will allow them to develop a nuclear weapon? They have the best spy network in the world and will make sure that Iran just keeps on talking. Remember Iraq’s nuclear program? Israel took it out.
    Wise up folks. We are BROKE and getting deeper in debt. We can no longer force our will on every jerk-water country in the world and definitely not a MUSLIM country. This Muslim/Christian battle has gone on for 1000 years and will continue. We are not the world’s police or bank. It is time for us to let the rest of the world to get by without us.

  • Spazmodo

    Amazing how someone in the media ( the author of that fiction up above) can say something and you sheeple follow right along.

    Ron Paul DID NOT SAY THAT. What he said was “Even our own CIA gives me this information that they have no evidence that they are working on a weapon. Just think of what we went through in the cold war….” At no point did he say “Why stop Iran from getting nukes”. What he said was it’s none of our business, “we need to stop meddling in the internal affairs of other countries and bring our troops home”..and he’s right.

    Here’s a link to the question’s and answer directly relating to this quote. Quit putting words in the mans mouth and listen to what he actually says.

    WE ARE NOT THE WORLD POLICE!

  • J Rhoades

    The emphasis from Paul is not on allowing or not allowing any country to destroy another but on us taking our focus (and money) away from the rest of the world and refocusing on the US and our citizens. Let Israel handle Iran, they are MORE than capable. We need a president willing to tell the world to police and feed itself while we fix our own problems.

  • Gene J

    “Regulate” intersate commerce, not manage it.
    I suppose you think “promote the general welfare” means you should get welfare checks…you know, take care of you.
    There is no one in national politics who adheres to the letter of the Constitution more faithfully than Paul.
    Try thinking it through. They hate us because we are there. While we are distracted by debt and “foreign threats”, our culture has been infiltrated, our schools have dumbed us down, and we have become more dependant on Islamist oil producer nations and the bloodiest power on the planet, Red China. We produce weapons for the world, and we are selling war.
    The current regime has doubled the debt in two years. We are sold out, and all of this is coming from those who grow richer off of us: The Banks.

    • American Patriot

      @Gene J
      You mean the parasite jew banks, I assume.

      • Are You Serious

        Amen !!!!!!! Well stated!!!

      • Certified American

        Sounds like we have one of those, “have-not” right here. Bet patriot hates everyone that has had any success…he is just picking on the Jews, tonight..

  • Gene J

    After the passage of the National Banking at of 1863, and shortly before his assassination, Lincoln tried to undo his mistake: “I cannot fight two wars at the same time; the Confederates in the front and the bankers in the rear, but of the two, the Confederates are the more honorable. I see in the future a crisis arising that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. The money-power will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few and the Republic destroyed. I feel more anxiety for my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.”

    Abe’s Secretary of the Treasury, Salmon P. Chase: “My agency in promoting the passage of the National Banking Act was the greatest mistake of my life. It has built up a monopoly which affects every interest in the country. It should be repealed, but before that can be accomplished, the people will be arrayed on one side, and the banks on the other, in a contest such as we have never seen before in this country.”

    Andrew Jackson: Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.
    I intend to rout you out, and by the grace of the Eternal God, will rout you out

    Daniel Webster: “Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money.” –

    James A. Garfield: “Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce.” –

    Mayer Amschel Rothschild: “Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws” –

    Franklin’s fears have come to pass: “The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest, colonial money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the manipulators, was probably the prime cause of the revolution. If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses, rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude them for all time, your children will curse you in you graves.”

    Jefferson weighs in: ” If the American people ever allow banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive he people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power of money should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it belongs. I sincerely believe banking institutions are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies. My zeal against these institutions was so warm and open at the establishment of the bank of the United States that I was derided as a maniac by the tribe of bank mongers who were seeking to filch from the public.”

    T.J. again: “I sincerely believe … that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”

    John Adams: “All the perplexities, confusion and distresses in America arise not from defects in the constitution or confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, as much from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.”

    W. Wilson (enemy of women’s suffrage) and FDR brought the FED down on our heads. They each followed it with a European war, adding debt to the yet unpaid Civil war debt. Nixon (no conservative!) took us off the Gold Standard and devalued the dollar.

    In 1913, President Woodrow Wilson approved the Federal Reserve Act. A few years later, he reflected:
    “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the

  • Gene J

    (cont’)
    the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world – no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”

    Ron Paul: Some governments even borrow money to oppress their citizens, and then expect them to pay for their own oppression with interest. With a fiat monetary system, the sky is the limit for how much debt a government can place on the backs of the people.

    Ron Paul: So yet again in the midst of a crisis, government insists on acting, and in ways far outside the scope of the Constitution, hoping that the crisis gives them cover. The truth is that in crises is when we need Constitutional limitations the most.

    John C. Calhoun: A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves, consisting of many and various and powerful interests, combined into one mass, and held together by the cohesive power of the vast surplus in the banks.
    The Government of the absolute majority instead of the Government of the people is but the Government of the strongest interests; and when not efficiently checked, it is the most tyrannical and oppressive that can be devised.

  • John

    The Iranian people are great people with a long glorious history but with a few radicals running the country that we caused. Stop drinking the Globlist’s koolaid for world control by making them into an enemy.

    • Jeffrey Monheit

      I agree John! You’re right. Ron Paul spoke about this during the first Iowa Straw Poll.

    • Francesca

      The iranian leaders are the enemy! Do you listen to their words?

  • Gene J

    Follow the money, John. Read some history. Do the math. You sound like a one-worlder/ statist/war monger to me.

    • American Patriot

      @Gene J
      JFK signed E.O. 11110 to do away with the Fed. Three months later they killed him. The E.O. has never been enacted!

      • Are You Serious

        Lol!!!! One can hope. No, millions can hope!!!!

  • JRCancio

    This precisely is why Ron Paul should not be President, the idiots religious zealots will use these nuclear devices first as black mail and someday will kill millions of people…where is Ron Paul going to be on that day….apologizing…run this religious zealot away from office before he kills

    Let me provide a clue to Ron Paul in the missile development of Iran, they have done much research in the adding a number of booster rockets to their primary area defense weapons to give the capability and to extend the range of their rockets, much of Europe comes under that umbrella already and that includes Britain, with but one additional booster the East Coast of the United States is already within range. With nuclear weapons, all you have to do is get close, the sphere of destruction does the rest. Since 9/11 we have seen what the destruction of just building can do…now imagine a whole city of millions of people…and then in the response a world at war….put a stop to Iran today…wipe them from the face of the earth before they make good on their promise.

  • http://yahoo PecosBob

    Ron Paul, why not just give any Muslim a nuclear weapon and have them tote it around like they tote those shoulder rocket launcher’s. I’m willing to bet that as soon as they have the nukes they (Iran) will use them. I am a true friend of the Israel Nation. Israel is my brother. Those with made up minds that Israel is the terrorist is either ignorant or has a preconcieved notion that Israel killed Jesus. Israel as a Nation is rich because of its people and faith. Don’t stoop yourself to the stupidity that Iran can have nukes and be a peace abiding civilization. Muslims are like an active volcano. No one knows when it may errupt, why, when and where. That path of the Muslim faith is of destruction and control.

    • American Patriot

      Iran isn’t the bully in the mid-east. Israhell is. Look at the trouble the have caused in just the last six months. Who knows what they will stir up next.
      “By Deception, Thou SHALT Make War” is how they operate and they prove it nearly day.

      • Francesca

        You are an idiot!

      • Are You Serious

        You’re a F’ing lying stupid SOB. ESAD!!!!

      • Dale on the left coast

        @AP . . . you are stoopid beyond belief . . . .
        The Israelies deal with thousands of rockets launched into their territory every year . . . mooslime bombers attack their citizens.
        What would your response be???? The so-called palistinians . . . who teach their children to hate right after they learn to walk are animals. They strap bombs on their kids . . . the typical leftists dream . . .

  • Daniel P. Jacobs

    I don’t know how I began receiving email notifications to this rag, but I can tell you one thing – after reading the impossibly stupid and ignorant remarks from the fake conservatives that populate this place, I will be sending a donation to Ron Paul’s campaign ASAP. He is by far the only candidate in either major party with a lick of sense. And I hope this pisses off the neo – conservative war mongers and the rubes that follow them that may read this. You are more dangerous than Obama, dumb as dirt, and need to be eradicated. (I guess I should be thanking you for the motivation you’ve just given me.)

  • http://www.daleklippel.com Dale

    I can’t say I know all that much about Ron Paul, but with the statement he just made he’s another Obummer and the good Lord knows we don’t need that type of replacement. I think he’s help the party out by just stepping aside right now and not screwing up the other worthwhile folks who’ve stepped forward. Paul just took GIANT leaps backwards!

    • American Patriot

      @Dale
      Believe me Ron Paul is not another Obummer or even close to it. He is his own man and will stay that way. He is not a teleprompter puppet and will speak his own words, not pre-written script.

    • http://www.theplanetprisoner.wordpress.com PlanetPrisoner

      @ Dale: I think YOU can help the party out by doing some homework, learning a bit more about Dr NO,…can you say “Audit the FED”, the military industrial complex, KBR, Haliburton, Dyncor, Lyndon Johnson, Prescott Bush, Dick Cheney……that’s enough for a start. You research these and you will surely be a RON PAUL 2012 supporter.

      • Are You Serious

        That is just stupid!!! Ron Paul is full of shit!!! He has no chance to win. All he can do is disrupt the election, which is his goal. He is not what he claims to be.

  • Gene J

    You youngsters likely do not know how well the long-time nuclear power Israel can take care of business. The best thing is for them to do it, and for US to stand right behind them. Israel has had nukes for over a generation, but has defeated several well armed Islamist nations at once, without resorting to nuclear arms. It took them one week to defeat the combined armed forces of Egypt, Jordan & Syria, with attacks also coming from Lebanon.

    • American Patriot

      It seems to me the last time the jew terrorists invaded Lebanon, they were pretty handed their whipped asses and scattered banned carpet bombs behind themselves on the way out.

      • Francesca

        Lies and more lies!

      • Dale on the left coast

        And what would you call the Syrian involvement???
        Are you a mooslime?

      • Certified American

        You are no American Patriot…

        I have an innate love for the Jewish people. Never have understood why other people dislike them. They are Gods chosen people, and those that stand with them will be blessed! Maybe because they were “chosen,” they suffer discrimination. The Jewish religion is a precursor to our own Christian religion. Many in this country are descendants and do not realize it, they are our brothers and sisters. Israel is a democracy surrounded by Islamic Nations! Their beliefs are one with ours and they love freedom……and they are called, “Little Satin!” Even their enemies recognize the comparison..

        Save your hatred for those that would “kill the infidels,” instead! Those are your enemies!

        • Vic

          Certified American—

          Jews are not God’s chosen people- Israelites are, and the Biblical Israelites are God’s Chosen. The Jews suffer because when they called Christ to be crucified, they said ” His blood be on us, and on our children.” [Matt 27:24-25].

          Their beliefs are not the same as yours ( Christians ) They follow the Talmud and they still reject Jesus Christ. If you are a Christian, they are not your brothers and sisters.

          • Certified American

            Vic – The Israelites were Jews…..and they were God’s chosen people…

        • Vic

          Certified American

          Benjamin H. Freedman ( Christian converted Jew )
          Jesus Christ tells John in Revelation 2:9 “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are jews and are not but are the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN “. We know that God changed the name of Abram to Abraham Gen. 17:5 and that God changed the name of Jacob to Israel Gen. 32:28 but no where in the bible do we find where God changed the name of his chosen people Israel to jew ! Therefore there is no authority by which those who say they are jews can claim to be Israel !

  • Jeffrey Monheit

    Ron Paul is 100% right in his statement. You don’t attack a country because it wants to develop nuclear energy to be self sustaining and to build its infrastructure. You don’t attack a country that wishes to develop nuclear technology in order to defend itself from hostile neighbors. If Muslim Pakistan can have weapons then why can’t Iran? Just because Jewish Zionists don’t like Iran doesn’t mean it has to be bombed into smithereens! I am a Jew myself and I don’t trust the State of Israel with a 100 foot poll! I trust instead the true Israel that G-d blessed which is Biblical Israel (now the church). I’d sooner take my chances with the Iranian regime than The State of Israel! The real reason the State of Israel was created was to be a place to protect the top Zionist bankers from prosecution from their host nations. This is why authentic Jews are not treated well and are not welcomed in the State of Israel. The government of the State of Israel is run as a godless secular state!

    The Israeli Zionists bombed the WTC, they attacked the U.S.S. Liberty and they run our banking system and mainstream media who deny Ron Paul fair coverage! The Zionists massacred the Armenians, Assyrians and Greek Christians of Asia Minor. The Zionist Bolshevik Communists murdered Czar Nicholas II of Russia and his family through trickery, killed tens of millions of Orthodox Christians in Russia and toppled their government into a godless, Communist dictatorship regime.

    ENOUGH SAID! I’m tired of living in the U.S.S.A.! RON PAUL FOR U.S. PRESIDENT IN 2012! We need to take our country back from the statists!

    • http://www.theplanetprisoner.wordpress.com PlanetPrisoner

      We have some work ahead of us, as we expose these press-titutes for what they are! I am sooooo tired of DR Paul being sidelined, and referred to as a pinata by most everyone. We know that Bilderberg chose Perry 2 years ago. HE is the one to expose for his CFR, NAFTA Superhwy, elitist ties.
      Momentum is with us… We just REALLY NEED TO SPREAD FACTS between now and the Rep Convention.

      We need to post on forums like there is no tomorrow. Post FACTS, FACTS, FACTS….even try to put sources in the post. Hand-outs, mailings, one-liner yard signs with bullet points, …if you don’t have a blog -start one!
      I have a you tube channel and a wordpress blog.
      …I send email to my address book 3-4 times a week. I put an opt-out note at the end. I blast my blog and Youtube EVERYWHERE…. many others do the same. We ALL need to try to talk to people at grocery store, gas station, soccer game, basketball game, …even change your phone greeting to “I can’t answer your call now, I am out spreading the word about Ron Paul, president in 2012.
      This isn’t silly, our Liberty and Freedoms rely on getting him and his people into office!!

    • http://www.theplanetprisoner.wordpress.com PlanetPrisoner

      GREAT POST, I am with you all the way.

    • Francesca

      You believe what the iranian leaders say? So delusional!

    • Dale on the left coast

      “I trust instead the true Israel that G-d blessed which is Biblical Israel (now the church). I’d sooner take my chances with the Iranian regime than The State of Israel! ”

      The ravings of a “Dimented” Mind . . . where did you find that nonsense? In the koooran???

  • John

    Some of you are letting the mainstream media (including conservativebyte) manipulate you. The establishment has conned many conservatives that the United States has a right (even an obligation) to police the world and that pre-emptive war is fine because everyone wants to attack us anyway because they hate us for our freedoms. Or something equally as silly. This brainwashing, which really took off with Bush around 911, has now become a part of the programmed groupthink and many have fallen victim to it. But it’s irrational. What Ron Paul is saying is just logical. North Korea and Russia have nuclear weapons. Many of our so-called enemies do. Our intelligence has repeatedly stated that Iran is nowhere near that point in time of having one. What are we supposed to do–obsess about them getting one until they do? Attack them before they get one? We’ve got to end this bad propaganda and realize that we’ve been trained to be reactionary and to view pre-emptive war as a defense mechanism. Not only is that not rational, it is immoral. I don’t always agree with Ron Paul but he makes a lot of sense on this point. What are we going to do–go to war with every country that might be on the brink of developing a nuclear weapon? Furthermore, he is correct about history. It is the US that has it’s fingerprints all over Operation Ajax in 1953 when we overthrew Mossadeq, who was pro-liberty, pro-USA at the time, which also leads me to realize our government hasn’t really been ours in a long, long time. Ron Paul’s foreign policy is the only sensible one I’m hearing and the establishment, which LOVES war, is torquing up the rhetoric and baseless fearmongering at the prospect of peace.

  • http://www.theplanetprisoner.wordpress.com PlanetPrisoner

    we DO NOT need to be policing the world. RON PAUL makes logical sense. …logic and common sense seems to have left most of America:
    -two great documentaries about the basics of exactly what is going on with war- this stuff is history folks, not rocket science. You don’t see nations getting in line to blow Switzerland up do you? These are on the web for free… http://www.sonsoflibertyacademy.com has them, and many other places…. I have them on my YouTube channel.
    “Why we Fight”
    “Iraq for Sale”
    KBR and Haliburton……. can you say “thieves”? Dick Cheney….. can you say “traitor”?

  • http://htc lucabrozie

    ron paul,is a very ugly and derainged person and should not even be considdered to oppose the anti christ…..wake up people were in the fight of our lives worse then w.w,2.the commies are at the gates and in the walls……

    • Vince

      You don’t even know who the commies are. They are working to bring about the new world order and are doing so with the idea that might is right, as is the case with Israel. People don’t think critically about the state of Israel and the Middle East as a whole, as well as our meddling there.

    • Certified American

      Don’t worry, Ron Paul will never be nominated! Let them rant and rave. They are just wasting energy which could be put to good use. One thing that worries me about Paul, is that he attracts all the “whackos!” This means that there is something wrong in, “River city!”

  • Spoony

    The United States holds the greatest psychological advantage over the entire world having used nuclear weapons not once but twice to bring an enemy to it’s knees.

    While the US military started slimming down, after 1945, communist Russia began building their military establishment into a greater force thinking they might be next in line. They began their nuclear build up to try to match or better ours.

    Scientists on both sides decided it would not be wise to exchange nukes in an all out nuclear war due to mutually assured destruction.

    Other nations, fearing for their safety, have since attained nuclear capability.

    Because the US still retains the greatest psychological advantage; it might be a good idea to warn the rest of the world, and our enemies, that we will not hesitate to destroy any national
    entity that threatens our freedom or the freedom of our close friend Israel.

    It is not wise to be anti-Semitic. The road of history is littered with destroyed nations that have tried to wipe out Israel.

    Personally, I would warn any nation, like Iran, that any attempt to nuke Israel would their last attempt period! Any nation that scoffs at our fire power would do so at their own peril; providing , of course, we had a very strong president with steel in his spine, iron in his words, and morale courage to use that psychological advantage to the maximum!

    • Certified American

      Well said!

    • Harry

      Reading your comments, I support Iran getting a nuclear if only to stop maniac like you who are willing to a whole nation just so you can get your false sense of security. If anything, American having committing nuclear genocide on the Japanese, have no moral authority on nuclear weapons. Iran being surrounded by racist warmonger who doesn’t value the life of people in developing, need to develope nuclear weapon to stop racists Western countries from attacking them and taking away their right to live.

  • sam giordano

    i think this president we have is to scared to face iran in this situation he has no guts he is a liar and he is scared he took on a job he couldn;t handle even the vice president said that.

    • Dale on the left coast

      Didn’t O say during the campaign in 08 that he would talk with US enemies . . . didn’t he convince them yet to lay down their arms and play nice?

  • Observer1

    Ron Paul is RIGHT. We have become the imperialist nation who’s ass we kicked 200 plus years ago. It is time to bring our troops home and start following the non interventionist doctrine as envisioned by our founders..We have Army troops in Afg. guarding the poppy fields, makes no sense to me. By the way, Iran has never attacked us, but Israel has. Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself.
    http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/

  • invest

    I was a Ron Paul fan up until his lame remarks concerning Iran and allowing them to have nuclear weapons.. Sorry Ron you lost my vote and millions of others like it..Take your road show somewhere else now.. Your presidential campaign just got nuked itself..

  • Mhirtzsr

    I think that Paul is saying that let Iran get nukes and Israel will take care of it… There isn’t going to be a nuke war, that’s bluster, everyone knows what will happen if they start it, someone else would end it…

    Then what???

    The end will come an we won’t have to lift one finger… It will all be taken care of!!!

  • drdon

    Ron Paul is so far out of touch, it is pathetic. Soon he will be a former candidate.

  • C. Stanley

    Ron Paul has some good ideas on domestic issues,but goes off the cliff on Iran. I have been reading many books on Iran since the 1979 revolution. The Iranian leaders are totally insane. They see Obama as an inept and ineffective leader of the US. What Ron Paul wants,falls directly into what Iran wants the US to do. That is nothing! Ron Paul shows such ignorance on Iran,it is very scary! Just bow out and go back to the Extended Care facility you belong in now! You are naive beyond belief! It’s time to shut er down Ron!

  • skyskiers

    Let’s see, what would be wrong with letting Iran have nuclear weapons? Maybe the fact that Iran’s leaders are suicidal maniacs, who believe that they must start WWWIII to usher in a world ruled my Islam!

    Subject: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEWS AND MUSLIMS
    This one is quite a lesson. It speaks for itself.

    Please do your part to assuring that this message never dies.

    The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is
    ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world’s population.

    They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

    Literature: 1988 – Najib Mahfooz

    Peace: 1978 – Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat 1990 – Elias James Corey
    1994 – Yaser Arafat: 1999 – Ahmed Zewai

    Economics:(zero)

    Physics:(zero)

    Medicine: 1960 – Peter Brian Medawar 1998 – Ferid Mourad

    TOTAL: 7 (SEVEN)

    The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world’s population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

    Literature:
    1910 – Paul Heyse 1927 – Henri Bergson 1958 – Boris Pasternak 1966 – Shmuel Yosef Agnon 1966 – Nelly Sachs 1976 – Saul Bellow 1978 – Isaac Bashevis Singer 1981 – Elias Canetti 1987 – Joseph Brodsky
    1991 – Nadine Gordimer

    World Peace:
    1911 – Alfred Fried 1911 – Tobias Michael Carel Asser 1968 – Rene Cassin 1973 – Henry Kissinger 1978 – Menachem Begin
    1986 – Elie Wiesel 1994 – Shimon Peres 1994 – Yitzhak Rabin

    Physics:

    1905 – Adolph Von Baeyer 1906 – Henri Moissan 1907 – Albert Abraham Michelson 1908 – Gabriel Lippmann 1910 – Otto Wallach
    1915 – Richard Willstaetter 1918 – Fritz Haber 1921 – Albert Einstein
    1922 – Niels Bohr 1925 – James Franck 1925 – Gustav Hertz
    1943 – Gustav Stern 1943 – George Charles de Hevesy
    1944 – Isidor Issac Rabi 1952 – Felix Bloch 1954 – Max Born
    1958 – Igor Tamm 1959 – Emilio Segre 1960 – Donald A. Glaser
    1961 – Robert Hofstadter 1961 – Melvin Calvin 1962 – Lev Davidovich Landau 1962 – Max Ferdinand Perutz 1965 – Richard Phillips Feynman
    1965 – Julian Schwinger 1969 – Murray Gell-Mann 1971 – Dennis Gabor
    1972 – William Howard Stein 1973 – Brian David Josephson
    1975 – Ben jamin Mottleson 1976 – Burton Richter 1977 – Ilya Prigogine
    1978 – Arno Allan Penzias 1978 – Peter L Kapitza 1979 – Stephen Weinberg 1979 – Sheldon Glashow 1979 – Herbert Charles Brown
    1980 – Paul Berg 1980 – Walter Gilbert 1981 – Roald Hoffmann
    1982 – Aaron Klug 1985 – Albert A. Hauptman 1985 – Jerome Karle
    1986 – Dudley R. Herschbach 1988 – Robert Huber 1988 – Leon Lederman
    1988 – Melvin Schwartz 1988 – Jack Steinberger 1989 – Si dney Altman
    1990 – Jerome Friedman 1992 – Rudolph Marcus 1995 – Martin Perl
    2000 – Alan J. Heeger

    Economics:

    1970 – Paul Anthony Samuelson 1971 – Simon Kuznets 1972 – Kenneth Joseph Arrow 1975 – Leonid Kantorovich 1976 – Milton Friedman
    1978 – Herbert A. Simon 1980 – Lawrence Robert Klein
    1985 – Franco Modigliani 1987 – Robert M. Solow 1990 – Harry Markowitz
    1990 – Merton Miller 1992 – Gary Becker 1993 – Robert Fogel

    Medicine:

    1908 – Elie Metchnikoff 1908 – Paul Erlich 1914 – Robert Barany
    1922 – Otto Meyerhof 1930 – Karl Landsteiner 1931 – Otto Warburg
    1936 – Otto Loewi 1944 – Joseph Erlanger 1944 – Herbert Spencer Gasser
    1945 – Ernst Boris Chain 1946 – Hermann Joseph Muller
    1950 – Tadeus Reichstein 1952 – Selman Abraham Waksman 1953 – Hans Krebs 1953 – Fritz Albert Lipmann 1958 – Joshua Lederberg
    1959 – Arthur Kornberg 1964 – Konrad Bloch 1965 – Francois Jacob
    1965 – Andre Lwoff 1967 – George Wald 1968 – Marshall W. Nirenberg
    1969 – Salvador Luria 1970 – Julius Axelrod 1970 – Sir Bernard Katz
    1972 – Gerald Maurice Edelman 1975 – Howard Martin Temin
    1976 – Baruch S. Blumberg 1977 – Roselyn Sussman Yalow
    1978 – Daniel Nathans 1980 – Baruj Ben acerraf 1984 – Cesar Milstein
    1985 – Michael Stuart Brown 1985 – Joseph L. Goldstein
    1986 – Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini] 1988 – Gertrude Elion
    1989 – Harold Varmus 1991 – Erwin Neher 1991 – Bert Sakmann
    1993 – Richard J. Roberts 1993 – Phillip Sharp 1994 – Alfred Gilman
    1995 – Edward B. Lewis 1996- Lu Rose Iacovino

    TOTAL: 129!

    The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don’t hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

    The Jews don’t traffic in slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

    Perhaps the world’s Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

    Muslims must ask ‘what can they do for humankind’ before they demand that humankind respects them.

    Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel ‘s part, the following two sentences really say it all:

    ‘If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.

    If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel .”

    Benjamin Netanyahu

    JESUS WAS A JEW WHO WILLINGLY DIED FOR ALL MANKIND!

    MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL OR ENSLAVE ALL(NON-MUSLIMS) MANKIND!

    WHICH GROUP , JEWS OR MUSLIMS, IS MORE LIKELY TO LAUNCH A NUCLEAR ATTACK ON THE CIVILIZED WORLD? Click on the link, you decide.

    http://33-minutes.com/33-minutes/

    THE ISLAMIC MEIN KAMPF

    http://www.oldbluewebdesigns.com/IslamicMeinKampf.swf

    General Eisenhower Warned Us:
    It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.

    He did this because he said in words to this effect:

    ‘Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses – because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened’

    Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it ‘offends’ the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.

    It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were ‘murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated’ while the German people looked the other way.

    Now, more than ever, with Iran , among others, claiming the Holocaust to be ‘a myth,’ it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.

    This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.

    How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center ‘NEVER HAPPENED’ because it offends some Muslim in the United States?

    Jesus answered and said unto him, VERILY, VERILY, I SAY UNTO THEE, EXCEPT

    A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD John 3:3

    • Certified American

      Good comment!

    • Vic

      Stated by Skyskiers–
      Jesus answered and said unto him, VERILY, VERILY, I SAY UNTO THEE, EXCEPT

      A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD John 3:3

      WELL, I GUESS THAT LEAVES THE JEWS OUT AS THEY DESPISE JESUS CHRIST.

  • bucksnort100

    To understand Ron Paul’s thinking , You need to understand his worldview. there is a lot more to Ron Paul’s approach than what meets the eye and What he believes in can’t be explained in a sound byte . If you give him a chance, like Rudy Giuliani did, you might learn something.

  • skyskiers

    WHY WERE WE ATTACKED?

    WHEN DID IT START?

    WHO ATTACKED US?

    ARE WE AT WAR?

    CAN WE LOSE?

    DARE WE LOSE?

    I had no idea who General Chong is or the source of these thoughts. so when I received them, I almost deleted them – as well – written as they are. But then I did a “Google search” on the General and found him to be a retired Air Force Surgeon of all things and past Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San Antonio. So he is real, is connected to Veterans affairs, and these are his thoughts. They are worth reading and thinking about!! (the same Google search will direct you to some of his other thought – provoking writings.)

    Authored by Maj. Gen. Vernon Chong, USAFR:

    “This War is for REAL!”

    To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII). The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

    First, let’s examine a few basics:

    When did the threat to us start?
    Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:

    Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
    Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
    Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
    Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
    First New Your World Trade Center attack 1993;
    Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
    Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
    Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
    Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
    New Your World Trade Center 2001;
    Pentagon 2001.
    (Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks world wide).

    Why were we attacked?
    Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors, President Ford or Carter.

    Who were the attackers?
    In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

    What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.

    5. Isn’t the Muslim Religion peaceful?

    Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately

    Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership

    of Hitler (who was also “Christian”), that made no difference. You either went

    along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million

    Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests).

    (see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm)

    Thus, almost the same numbers of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world – German, Christian or any others. The same scenario applies with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all in the way – their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else.

    The point her is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing – by their own pronouncements – killing all of us “infidels.” I don’t blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?

    6. So who are we at war with?

    There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don’t clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting!

    So with that background, now to the two major questions:

    1. Can we lose this war?

    2. What does losing really mean?

    If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions.

    We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question – What does losing mean?

    It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get. What losing really means is:

    We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was clearly for terrorist to attack us until we were neutered and submissive to them. We would of course have no future support from other nations for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see we are impotent and cannot help them.

    They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn’t matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished!

    The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don’t win, they are finished too in that they can’t resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!

    If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing who would trade or deal with us if they were threatened by the Muslims.

    If we can’t stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?

    The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war and therefore are completely committed to winning at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.

    Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And, it is going to take that 100% effort to win.

    So, how can we lose the war?

    Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by “imploding.” That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!

    Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don’t comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situation.

    President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of transportation. Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

    And don’t worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more since then.

    Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?

    No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head!

    Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and /or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add that this isn’t because they are disloyal. It is because they just don’t recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends and it does great damage to our cause.

    Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war by a small group of our military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.

    And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type enemy fighters who recently were burning Americans and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq.

    And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally of the beheading of American prisoners they held.

    Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the “humiliating” of some Muslim prisoners – not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but “humiliating” them.

    Can this be for real?

    The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn’t show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

    To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned – totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we nor any other country can survive this internal strife. Again I say this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us for many years.

    Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into ALL non-Muslims – not just in the United States, but throughout the world.

    We are the last bastion of defense.

    We have been criticized for many years as being ‘arrogant.’ That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back we can defeat anything bad in the world!

    We can’t

    If we don’t recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive and no other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated.

    And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone – let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.

    This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.

    If we don’t win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn’t that sound eerily familiar?

    Democracies don’t have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.

    And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown worldwide that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves once they are in power.

    They have universally shown that when they have taken over they then start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct about the “peaceful Muslims”?

    I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we find ourselves in and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.

    After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world.

    Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that includes the politicians and media of our country and the free world!”

    UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!

    IF YOU BELIEVE THE ABOVE, PASS THIS ON

    • Certified American

      This Air Force Surgeon has great skill in stating the purpose for winning the war against Islam!

      People must be told who the enemy really is, what he is fighting to achieve, and what he is capable of doing! He and his ilk must be identified!
      MSM should be showing the truth about our enemies and helping to “define” them. Show Americans the videos of the be-headings and atrocities committed by terrorists. Many people do not think these things happen or that evil really exists! They have got to see what this war is about. We do not need any Americans, feeling safe because they have been allowed to deny the fact that we are at war. Our government, our news media, our politicians, should never shield our enemy because of Political Correctness!
      So far, they cannot even bring themselves to admit it is the muslims that are terrorizing us.

      We must, “know our enemy to defeat him!” Trash Political Correctness, start profiling, limit visas, forget about political diplomacy, stop with the diplomatic immunity, and stop giving terrorists killers the same Civil Rights that Americans have! Stop coddling detainees, stop with the special food, the TVs, the art classes, and all that nonsense! Serve them pork ribs and potato salad every Saturday! Quit jumping through hoops when the radical, American-haters, take sides with the enemy……ignore them! We are fighting for our way of life…lets take this seriously!

      One of the best points the author made was pointing out the lack of freedom in muslim countries!
      Muslim countries do not have freedom of speech, religion, civil rights, equal rights or any other kind of rights, given to the people. Is this what we want for America! We let muslims come here and get on Medicaid. We pay for them to populate our country and while they teach their young to kill everyone that is not a muslim….folks, that includes us. We will not get any help from the so-called, “moderate muslims.” I do not believe there is such a thing, not if they are practicing Islam! The same Laws apply to every believer of Islam, not just the terrorists! Look to other countries to see the results of “tolerance” of these “muslim settlers.” They are settlers because they come to conquer and spread their own laws and religion. They do not come to assimilate. Their religion or their laws are not compatible with our way of life in America. They are disruptive and promote chaos while using our own laws against us. Political Correctness is one of the most destructive tools used by our enemies. They promote a religion of hate, they teach their children to hate and kill, they abuse women, they kill their own people….I could go on! it is time to realize that we are at war and we need to start acting like it. And, the war is with Islam, not just, “a small number of radical terrorists!”

      • John Galt

        Amen; we are at war, there are no prisoners, there is no peace, only death or victory.

  • Bud MacGuire

    Apparently Ron Paul’s “America First” policy has annoyed some of the “Make America the Ruler of the World” fans. But Ron is right. America is flater than broke. America needs to get a sane fiscal policy in order, let the world take care of itself for awhile.
    Our illustrious Fathjer of our country ,George Washington wanted America to be friends with all nations and allied with none.
    We have tried being the great World Supervisor, and it has gotten us nothing but bankruptsy and international contempt even from our friends.
    We need to concentrate on rebuilding USA and we need to elect a Congress with that same goal.

  • phil

    You dumbed down people. You need to look at world news and not the big brother media like Fox, cbs,cnn,msnbc,…etc .The American government has done nothing but take our rights in the name of 911…. We are no safer but less free. You think because you are American that makes you superior. Well the rest of the world don’t see it that way. They see a big history of America forcing there will on other countries. If you think the world government puppets such as Rick Perry( Al Gores campaign adviser, and supports carbon taxes scam) Or maybe Newt who supports The Obama Care Scam. Or any one running for president who is backed by the the world banking cartels then you need to study history. Iran might make some threats but they have not acted on there threats. Iran is surrounded by countries that have nukes so of course they want a nuke. America would not be the big mighty nation with out its nuclear arsenal. America cant easily, at there will invade other countries if that country has nuclear weapons. So of course all other countries want a nuclear bomb. Pakistan is a nuclear power and the American government just gave them another $500,000,000,000 billion While at the same time Pakistan is wanting all US personnel out of there country. It might be hard for Americans to believe, but America Is one nation in a world of many nations, We have no right to force our way into other countries for the world bankers gain. Ron Paul is not perfect but he is better than the World Banker backed Perry or Gingrich And if Ron Paul was President you can be certain Billions of dollars will stop being sent to Pakistan and the Palestinians. And yes the Obamas administration has sent hundreds of millions of dollars to the Palestinians for aid. Look it up before you claim I’m full of crap… Every one should study the governments own documents and the constitution. Wake up ! Drudgereport .com will tell you what big brother corporate media will not.

  • KH

    Pakistan already has the bomb. Pakistan will eventually fall into terrorist hands. What is the US going to do then? Bomb Pakistan?

    Isreal has nukes. It can defend itself. It doesn’t need the US to tell it what to do.

    What if China decided the US shouldn’t have a nuclear bomb? What if they decided to nuke us first knowing they have way more people to survive a nuclear war than the US? What is the US going to do about the threat?

    Telling a sovereign country what they can and can’t do, forcing governments upon them and “nation building” is the definition of imperialism.

    So the neocon answer is to start another unconstitutional war funded by the printing of money and thrusting it on the backs of Americans while devaluing their savings. Brilliant.

    If a country is broke and can’t pay it’s bills it no longer has a viable military. Printing money won’t solve that problem. It will only exacerbate it. That’s what the economically illiterate neocons don’t understand. Their foreign policy solutions are just as stupid as democrats domestic policy solutions.

  • hass

    “Iran is not in breach of international law. There is no evidence that the country is building nuclear weapons” – Five former EU ambassadors to Iran.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jun/09/iran-nuclear-power-un-threat-peace

    Multiple polls by US organizations found that the people of Iran did in fact vote for Ahmadinejad, and there was no election fraud.

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/652.php

  • Barry Sotero

    Israel Has more than 300 nukes;paid for by us taxpayers. Their mossad operatives can take care of their own biz. Stop demanding US blood to be shed for foreign squabbles.

  • Sarah Peters

    what people must realize is that we have all been programed to fear. it is this fear that will ultimately strip us of our basic human rights. say no to Paul IF you want a police state and new world order. sad truth.

  • Pj

    Under present conditions there is little we as a nation can do to prevent the mullahs from obtaining nuclear weapons. That genie is out of the bottle. Any nation with the necessary resources can build their own nukes. Iranian policy is guided by the belief in a Muslim savior who will establish a global caliphate only after a period of global chaos. Triggering that chaos is, in their belief, a holy action. Wiping Israel off the face of the earth is the chosen path to chaos, nuclear weapons are the means to that end. Given the political and scientific realities of this century the only logical course for American foreign policy is to promise Iran that if they detonate a nuclear weapon, whether as a test or an offensive strike, we will turn their nation into a radioactive waste heap. Perhaps faced with the absolute certainty of a quick trip to Valhalla with no possibility of a caliphate arising from the ashes of their nation Iranians will exercise their right to overthrow an unjust illegitimate tyranny. We can not do it under the present administration.

  • http://thinkbynumbers.org Mike P. Sinn

    It would be much more productive for you to state facts supporting your views instead of ad hominem attacks and unsupported opinions.

    If you were to review the history of US activity in the middle east, you would understand that our continued military activity there is the cause of the animosity towards us.

    Here are the facts about the historical US relationship with Iran

    Number of Americans Killed in Iranian-Supported Attacks on US = 0

    Number of Iranians Killed in US-Supported Attacks on Iran = Between 500,000 and 1,000,000

    Number of Times Iran has Overthrown the US’s Democratically-Elected Government = 0

    Number of Times the US has Overthrown the Iran’s Democratically-Elected Government = 1

    Number of Countries Invaded by Iran over the Last Century = 0

    Number of Countries Invaded by the US over the Last Century = 10 (Not Including WWII)

    Timeline of US-Iran Relations

    1953 – Under orders from President Eisenhower, the CIA organized a military coup that overthrew Iran’s democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. Britain, unhappy that Iran nationalized its oil industry, came up with the idea for the coup and pressed the United States to mount a joint operation to remove Mossadeqh.

    1953 to 1979 – Following the coup, the U.S installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi , and the thriving democracy that existed in Iran was crushed. The Shah led 25 years of tyrannical rule (supported by the CIA) that resulted in the killing of thousands of Iranians who opposed the U.S. puppet government. On the economic front, the Shah denationalized Iran’s oil industry, 60% of which went to American firms.

    1979 U.S.-backed Shah of Iran forced to leave the country after widespread demonstrations and strikes. Islamic religious leader Ayatollah Khomeini returns from exile and takes effective power. Sixty-six hostages taken by students at the U.S. embassy in Tehran. The students justified taking the hostages as retaliation for the admission of the Shah into the U.S., and demanded the Shah be returned to Iran for a trial. The new Iranian regime believed the Shah was in the U.S. so that the U.S. could carry out another coup d’etat in Iran; the U.S. claimed he had come there only to seek medical attention. The Shah was given refuge and Iranians demanded his extradition to Iran to face justice. The U.S. rejected Iran’s request and the hostage taking ensued. The hostage crisis at the U.S. embassy in Tehran lasted 444 days

    1980 – Iraq invades neighboring Iran with the approval of the United States. The war lasts eight years and kills hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Iranians. Iran suffered heavy casualties from Saddam’s chemical weapons, many of which were provided by the U.S.

    1981 – Last 52 U.S. hostages freed in January after intense diplomatic activity. Their release comes a few hours after U.S. President Jimmy Carter leaves office. They had been held for 444 days.

    1982 to 1983 – As Iranian forces gained the upper hand on the battlefield with Iraq, the U.S. launched another covert operation to arm and aid Saddam. It began clandestinely to supply Saddam with satellite intelligence on Iran’s deployments. Weapons were also sent via CIA fronts in Chile and Saudi Arabia directly to Baghdad. Between 1986 and 1989, some seventy-three transactions took place that included bacterial cultures to make weapons-grade anthrax, advanced computers, and equipment to repair jet engines and rockets. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.

    1985 to 1986 – Iran-Contra Affair: U.S. holds secret talks with Iran and makes weapons shipments, allegedly in exchange for Iranian assistance in releasing U.S. hostages in Lebanon. With revelations that profits were illegally channeled to Nicaraguan rebels, this creates the biggest crisis of Ronald Reagan’s presidency.

    1987 – Following the mining of a U.S. Navy frigate, U.S. forces engage in series of encounters with Iranian naval forces, including strikes on Gulf oil platforms. The engagement was code named “Operation Praying Mantis”. The battle, the largest between surface forces since World War II, sank two Iranian warships and as many as six armed speedboats. The Iranian Frigate, IS Alvand, attacked by U.S. Navy forces

    1988 – On patrol in the Persian Gulf, the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian passenger jet that it had mistaken for a hostile Iranian fighter aircraft. U.S. Navy Captain Will C. Rogers III ordered a single missile fired from his warship, which hit its target and killed all 290 people aboard the commercial Airbus.

  • TxJohn

    Ron Paul lost my consideration when it was ok with him for Iran to have nukes. As stated before, Ackmydinnerjacket is enough of a loon to not care what happens if he lets one of those off the chain at Israel, the only true ally the US has in the Middle East. Nope, Ron, not this election, nor the next, nor the next….

  • posta comment

    The US has been keeping Israel from taking Iran out. If Ron Paul were pres he would not interfere and Israel would do what they did before and bomb Iran and take out the threat.

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  • Ciro

    War propaganda. All of it. Paul seems to be completely right on this one. I’ve been saying for years that the most disgusting thing going on in this country is the belief that Iran and Palestine are a real threat. This causes people that get all their info from the mainstream media (which is a majority of Americans) to believe that out support for Israel is necessary for our own national defense. It’s not and it’s based on a lie.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLQoxmGnp-o&feature=related

  • Justin Moore

    I think its completely absurd for a country who has nuclear weapons themselves as well as being the only country in the history of man kind to use a nuclear weapon to say who should and should not have nuclear weapons. If you ask me, that’s hypocrisy. Iran has not invaded or attacked anybody in the last 100 years. They do not have the capability of launching missles at the US. Iran can not even make enough gasoline for themselves. Peace is far more powerful than war. Through peace human lives are not taken, both military and civilian. Through peace you do not spend ridiculous amounts of money on wars when your country is in economic crisis. Through peace brings friendship. The US foreign policy has made more enemies than friends. No one is 100% sure, or even 40% sure, that Iran is on the verge of having nuclear weapons. It is all war propaganda exactly as we all seen on Iraq and their WMD, which did not exist. We can not afford these wars and they need to withdraw from these countries immediately. They are unconstitutional, war was never declared by Congress. I think some of you people need to educate yourselves on the issues and I don’t mean by watching the main stream media. Do some research on your own.

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  • Concerned Citizen

    Israel has over 300 nukes. We don’t seem to care as much that North Korea wants nukes. They put the spotlight on Countries they want to invade anyway. Tell the population they want to kill us so we back endless wars. This will never end until we wake up to the NEOCON fraud. After Iran it will be some other Country that’s rich in Natural resources.

  • Hadi

    I personally have a lot of respect for Mr. Ron Paul and I know he is a man of good will and I learned a lot about values of liberty by reading his article : “A republic, if you can keep it”, but as an Iranian who lives in Iran I strongly oppose his foreign policy toward Iran. I heard him somewhere saying that America should offer friendship to Iran instead of sanctions. This alone shows that he doesn’t know Iran very well. The Iranian revolution was born with hatred of western values and especially USA as most influential western country. The Iranian regime is born with willingness to destroy USA as part of its body.
    I think neither giving friendship to Iran nor a military attack would help, the tougher sanctions and smarter ones will probably be the best shot for the United States. You maybe ask why I’m suggesting sanctioning a country that I live in, because I hate Iranian regime as much as you do.

  • David

    The international response to use of a nuke by Iran would be to turn their nation into a crater the next day. Does anyone doubt this? It would be suicidal for them and that is obvious. Why does no one raise this obvious point and force the mendacious media and other candidates to address it? It seems simple. To simply stop at “nuclear Iran” as if it is some kind of trump, and let irrational fear do its work, is manipulative, misleading, and dishonest. No one even considers dialog as an alternative. No one can stop the spread of technology anyway. Do you think no one ever said, “We have the wheel, you can’t have the wheel.” And then, “We have the crossbow, you can’t have the crossbow.” And then, ” We have the musket, you can’t have the musket.” Did that work? Come on.

    • StopRonPaul

      With your view every country has had nuclear weapons by now, and clearly the current policies make world a better place. Nuclear weapon is not crossbow or musket, it is the ultimate weapon. And I am sure Iran will use nuclear weapon in a deniable way such as entering the weapon to Israel or USA and then detonate it.