Now government wants to control tidiness of churches

A New Hampshire city official has taken the old saying “cleanliness is next to godliness” one step too far in a battle now raging over the tax status of a church building, determining that cleanliness is godliness, according to a legal team in the midst of the fight.

The dispute concerns Liberty Assembly of God, now called Destiny Christian Church, over its decision to use its building to feed the hungry and help the needy, and the resulting impact on its building.

It appears a city official didn’t like clutter, and concluded the church couldn’t be religious with it there.

It was several years ago that the foundations of the problem were set in place, when Concord, N.H., officials decided that if the church used its building to house the homeless and meet missionaries’ needs, it would no longer be a church because those weren’t “religious” purposes.

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  • James Carter

    Read the book 5000 Year Leap! You only have to understand a small portion of what and how our founders thought to see this is a ludicrous statement!

  • http://adrianvance.blogspot.com Adrian Vance

    There are people who have to control things and people, especially people. They go into government and usually swap it for God. This is totally consistent with that model.

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  • Delon Jenen

    WOW! Isn't that exactly what Christ taught us to do. Feed and cloth the poor. What better purpose for a church could you have? Who are these people in NH? Vote the buggers out next time.

  • Delores Smith

    OBAMA AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT…

    No regulations for churches to be tidy. However, feel free to contact the minister of the church to leave your name. If he needs your services for cleaning services, he will call you. Nice of you to offer your free cleaning services. Remember, don't call him…he'll call you.

    Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

  • Linda

    Unbelievable!!! Do these people belong to a Church have they ever attended a Worship Service??? There are many Churches where I live that feed and shelter the homeless, this is asked very simply of us in the Bible. There is another thought maybe these people should sit down and actually read the Bible. Instead of going after Churches to make money why don't these grand people take a cut in salary, pay for there own health insurance or go on the ridiculous crap obama is shoving down our throats!!! Once they are out of office the apron string is cut, no more money from us. Come on wake up!! What a bunch of fools look the word fool up in the Bible!!!!

  • http://facebook Que Dub

    I WONDER IF THE CITY OFFICIAL WILL INSPECT THE mosques !!!! ??????

    THEY HAVE POOR SANITARY CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE BATHROOMS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Barbara

      Very good idea about the mosques….. I've never been in one but when I was in Israel and Egypt years ago, any place controlled by Arabs was very dirty…

  • Nancy

    Good grief! What is more "Christian" than helping to feed the hungry and care for the poor. The problem is that the government wants complete control over such things.

    Que Dub, no, I seriously doubt that anyone will inspect the mosques and their poor sanitary habits. *shudder* Gives me the creeps to think about that one!

  • NATHAN HALE

    JUST ONE MORE SIGN OF THE COMMUNIST MINDSET RUN AMOK….TOTAL CONTROL IS THEIR BREAD & BUTTER, WITH A 2A.M. KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR, AS THEIR CALLING CARD…LIVE AND LET LIVE IS DEMOCRACY'S BASTION…..LIVE AND LET DIE IS THE REDS' MANIFESTO….TALK IS CHEAP….ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS….WAKE UP AMERICA & SMELL THE COFFEE….THE SKY IS FALLING!!!….FOR REAL !!!!!!

  • Paul

    If clothing those in rags, feeding the hungry and providing shelter for the homeless is not the business of the church according to this leftist drone, then what is? Its called loving your neighbor as you love yourself which is a direct commandment from the world's Savior, Jesus the Christ, or God incarnate. Who do you think has the last word on this issue? Here's a clue: It's not a leftist drone sitting on a city council or in the highest office in the land. Hello!

  • CiJi

    They will not be content until they take God out of the equation. When they get their way–anti-christ will be here and then our Lord Jesus. They better repent or they will have an awful eternity.

    • Linda

      That is why we have got to stick to our guns as my mother used to say!! We hold the reigns now is not the time to let go. There is only one in charge and as long as we do not turn our backs on him, we will over come these satanic people!!! The Dear Lord knows everything and he is so much stronger than these leftist crazy people!!!

  • Bambam55

    I live in N.H. and haven't heard about this, But I think I'll be asking around on this subject . Some one was right whoever this person is should be voted out next term, but the BIG QUESTION is how did someone so dumb and irresponsible get into office anyway?????????????

    • ready for battle

      HOW DID THAT HALF-ASS MUSLIM GET IN THE WHITE HOUSE????

      • OKAY

        LOL – good question. He seemed to just fall out of the sky and bam, he's president.

    • Pete from AZ

      Need you ask? He was elected by his like-minded contemporaries… the same type of voter apathy that has helped get us into the mess we are in today. Outlaw the 'Get out the vote' campaigns…this is where they tend to wind up.

  • Double Ace

    How long do we wait before the revolution begins. It is clear this administration is hell bent on turning us into a third world country, or worse.

    • HCG

      D Ace, it we wait much longer, it will be too late if it isn't already!!!

    • Jerry O

      Oh, they are just baiting us to start ANYTHING violent, we don't need to be violent, but we do need to vote and get others to do so also. Some others have to be shown the light, they have their heads too far buried. If any clutter has to be cleaned, it is some of the legislation they are putting out.

  • TN Lizzie

    What was the condition of what was then Liberty Assembly of God that prompted this action? The photo shown is of the building with the new name. We've not been given enough information to make informed comments.

    Photos of the cluttered property, please?

    That said, the last paragraph says quite a lot:

    Quote: It was several years ago that the foundations of the problem were set in place, when Concord, N.H., officials decided that if the church used its building to house the homeless and meet missionaries’ needs, it would no longer be a church because those weren’t “religious” purposes.

    Housing the homeless and meeting missionaries' needs – Did this include teaching housekeeping skills and cleanliness?

    What exactly is the government complaining about?

  • Shira Israel-Levin

    It is a sign of the times. It has been prophetized in the Bible, Book of Revelation, there

    will be a world leader who will unit the world under one religion, one government, and

    one economic system. He is referred to in the Book of Revelation as the Beast and he

    will require all accept him as God and worship him or die. The world is headed in that

    direction. People need to wake up and come to repentance while there is time. The

    only way is Jesus.

    • No Spank Frank

      You have not come to this understanding on your own. The Father above has given you this knowledge.

  • mike shaw

    For the beating we are about to receive, may we be truly thankful.

    • Joseph Vaughn

      Mike… for the beating you are about to receive. I do not see WE in the puzzle. If you want to take a beating, go for it.. But I have to many guns and ammo for anyone to give me a beating. Been waiting for this day. I just pray that the south can rise up with the north and if we have to, we will do just as Egypt has and throw out that black idiot as well as them democrat cronies!!!!

  • stephanie

    Good grief, what is wrong with those people in NH???? Is insanity automatically attached to the Democratic party? You don’t hear the conservatives making statements like this. Liberals………………… greedy bastards! Guard yourself because these people are coming for your money and property. What happens when you get taxed to death, the Feds take your property to pay the taxes.

  • Iris Seyfried

    You can bet your life the gov. taxes you to the point yo lose your business, and when you get a job, you pay check is snapped up before you get to see it. That happened to my daughter in Idaho. She lost her business, still owing taxes, went out and got a waitressing job and worked amonth. She didn’t even get paid a thing, so she could pay rent, eat or any other bill. They took it all. That did not happen in NH but good old Idaho! My former home state. Not anymore!

  • Korean Vet

    This is the result, when you dis-obey the IRS "Rules" & let the U.S. Government give

    "Billions of Bail-Outs" to "For Big-Buck Banks", "Big Motor-Company Corporations" &

    "Parties for Boards of Directors" of Mortgage-Companies-! I'd like to see the Qualified

    IRS Lists–that makes these Giant Corporations "Eligible for Charity-Donations"-! Our Federal Government is listed as a Large Government Corporation that is a "Legal

    Entity"–who can Sue, Be Sued, & can "Adopt" or Acquire "Legal Naturized" Citizens,

    as "Adopted National Sons & Daughters" by "mutual agreement"-! But no-one is above the Law–not even Giant Corporations-! I think Citizens have to go by IRS Rules–& so, would the Federal Government-! (Who's breaking the Laws–Now-!?)

    "For Shame–Uncle Sam, You've just become a Law-Breaker-!"

    • bill newlun

      yea forget god and only do what the goverment does ,are you saved

  • Dr Richard Pippin

    I find it concerning that a whole city council of, what I assume, educated people. Surely at least one of these council members have read the scriptures. The church in question is only following the Lord's admonitions, that being to feed, clothe, and comfort those in need. These things are indeed Christ like acts. How much closer to religious acts can it be? A church is not a museum for saints but a hospital for sinners.

  • Diane Hagen

    I have to say if people are living there…it is a residence. If they are cooking there, the health dept will probably inspect their kitchen. The Church may wish to rent a house for these needy men.

    The church means well but need to meet the local rules and regulations. I hope they can work this out to meet the church and the city's agenda.

    • bill newlun

      you need read your bible ,you must not know christ,if all you can think of is money,its not all based on our wallet,theres nothing wrong in what theyer doing,they are helpping where you must not be helping,i bet your a mean person,and have very little compassion,dont you

  • Tom K

    WE as AMERICANS don't have a government, this is a wana be dictator and a bunch of AMERICA hating morons following him!!!

    • Larry

      Tom, Well put.I totally agree on this IDIOT wanting to be a dictator so maybe we can get someone to do to him like America did to the other Hussein.

  • Pastor Charlie

    Dear Diane et al,

    The Word tells us to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, provide for the homeless and as we have provided for the LEAST of these, so have we provided for The Christ JESUS.

    Whenever man's rules, regulations and ordinances contradict GOD, we, The Church, need to obey GOD, rather than man. Don't be so P.C. that you disobey GOD'S commandments!

    That said, let Him bless you allas much as He wants to! :)

  • bill newlun

    it figure that this goverment and only this one,would think of this.iwas wondering how long it would take for them to come up with something,but this is the obacrap begining of what is to come this man is evil and has no love for god or man,how i ask did he become president,when so many say they did nt vote for him,i tell you i never would vote for a unloveable man who thinks of these things,but the north is falling to the devils ways,you know bill clinton once told a pasture what to say in his sermon,i wonder what happien to him,god have mercy on us all for being so unfaithful to jesus,